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Made in au
Araqiel





Sunshine coast

Hello dakka, I've been tinkering a fair bit with my list and finally jut decided to get another opinion, so here goes

Real-Space Raiders:
Succubus Warlord, archite glaive, armour of misery

5 wyches, hekatrix with phantasm grenades, wyche with hydra gauntlets
5 wyches, hekatrix with phantasm grenades, wyche with hydra gauntlets

Scourges, solarite with power lance, 4 heat lances (with irillyth)
Raider with dark lance, night shield, shock prow, aether-sails (dedicated transport)
Raider with dark lance, night shield, shock prow, aether-sails (dedicated transport)
Raider with dark lance, night shield, shock prow, aether-sails ( avengers + succubus)

Eldar allies:
Irillyth, spear of starlight

Dire Avengers, exarch with Dire sword

Hemlock-Wraithfighter

Path of Heroes:
Solitare
Shadowseer, level 2, mask of secrets
Death jester

Together that means I've got -ld modifiers from the hemlock, armour and mask but I've heard the corsairs prince can take a mask or archangel, would this be a good idea, though I don't know what else the army can contain ? Additionally within 12 of irillyth ld tests are taken on 3d6 with the two highest. Additionally I've got two potential such of shriek casters, 2 phantasm grenades, shadowseers grenades, a diresword and the jester.

However I've only got 3 troops for maelstrom and theyre 5 man units, and I'll probably lose to razorback Gladius because of the amount of vehicles And ATSKNF but I'm confident my mini melee unit could tackle most beatsticks.

Please tell me what you think will and won't work and if I've missed anything!

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Made in ca
Swift Swooping Hawk





I am curious to see how it will work. Irillyth is quite a gamble, you could get a squad for his price which would net you more firepower.

The Hemlock does not lower LD. It gives a -2 penalty for morale/pinning/regroup tests. It's not the same thing.

If you are trying to make a unit fail an LD test so you can sweep them then yes the Hemlock will help.

If you cast Psychic Shriek, you do not get the Hemlock's -2 because Shriek is against the LD stats and is not a morale check in itself.
   
Made in au
Araqiel





Sunshine coast

 Erik_Morkai wrote:
I am curious to see how it will work. Irillyth is quite a gamble, you could get a squad for his price which would net you more firepower.

The Hemlock does not lower LD. It gives a -2 penalty for morale/pinning/regroup tests. It's not the same thing.

If you are trying to make a unit fail an LD test so you can sweep them then yes the Hemlock will help.

If you cast Psychic Shriek, you do not get the Hemlock's -2 because Shriek is against the LD stats and is not a morale check in itself.


Yeah wouldn't take much to kill him, so I'll try to keep him from threats, but I was hoping between my solitaire, melee beatstick, shadowseer and d-flyer he'd be low priority. The problem is that a ~140 squad of spectres can barely do the same damage (since I want that shadow of death) but without the hit-run, melee possibilities and I only get 1 fast slot for allies

Damn, thought it was similar, at least it'll help my jester right? And I suppose the capability for another shriek and D-1 shots will help against beasties and vehicle duty right?


3000 4500

 
   
Made in ca
Swift Swooping Hawk





 hiveof_chimera wrote:
 Erik_Morkai wrote:
I am curious to see how it will work. Irillyth is quite a gamble, you could get a squad for his price which would net you more firepower.

The Hemlock does not lower LD. It gives a -2 penalty for morale/pinning/regroup tests. It's not the same thing.

If you are trying to make a unit fail an LD test so you can sweep them then yes the Hemlock will help.

If you cast Psychic Shriek, you do not get the Hemlock's -2 because Shriek is against the LD stats and is not a morale check in itself.


Yeah wouldn't take much to kill him, so I'll try to keep him from threats, but I was hoping between my solitaire, melee beatstick, shadowseer and d-flyer he'd be low priority. The problem is that a ~140 squad of spectres can barely do the same damage (since I want that shadow of death) but without the hit-run, melee possibilities and I only get 1 fast slot for allies

Damn, thought it was similar, at least it'll help my jester right? And I suppose the capability for another shriek and D-1 shots will help against beasties and vehicle duty right?



Indeed the Hemlock will help with the Death Jester because the DJ triggers a morale check and not an LD (characteristic) check. Like I said just comments but I like the list overall and I see potential.
   
Made in au
Araqiel





Sunshine coast

 Erik_Morkai wrote:
 hiveof_chimera wrote:
 Erik_Morkai wrote:
I am curious to see how it will work. Irillyth is quite a gamble, you could get a squad for his price which would net you more firepower.

The Hemlock does not lower LD. It gives a -2 penalty for morale/pinning/regroup tests. It's not the same thing.

If you are trying to make a unit fail an LD test so you can sweep them then yes the Hemlock will help.

If you cast Psychic Shriek, you do not get the Hemlock's -2 because Shriek is against the LD stats and is not a morale check in itself.


Yeah wouldn't take much to kill him, so I'll try to keep him from threats, but I was hoping between my solitaire, melee beatstick, shadowseer and d-flyer he'd be low priority. The problem is that a ~140 squad of spectres can barely do the same damage (since I want that shadow of death) but without the hit-run, melee possibilities and I only get 1 fast slot for allies

Damn, thought it was similar, at least it'll help my jester right? And I suppose the capability for another shriek and D-1 shots will help against beasties and vehicle duty right?



Indeed the Hemlock will help with the Death Jester because the DJ triggers a morale check and not an LD (characteristic) check. Like I said just comments but I like the list overall and I see potential.


I was thinking, instead of having the seer arriving from one side, and the succubus advancing up the middle, dropping the heroes path and Shock prows for a cast of heroes with some kisses, same upgrades on seer and the web way portal on the succubus. Would this be the better way, if so should I just take veil and shriek or gamble on one table with the Shadowseer?

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Made in gb
Regular Dakkanaut





Uhm, I do like what I see, but Iryllith or whathisname is doesn't convince me either. I think a telepathy farseer able to bring yet another shriek plus anything you might bring alongside (including dominate on death stars and the chance for the allmighty invisibility) would be far more useful here.
   
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