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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/09 02:59:06
Subject: Twin-linked and combi weapon profiles - when to resolve?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Let's say I have a twin-linked flamer and a flamer on a crisis suit - do i resolve them at the same time, or one by one?
Same goes for a combi weapon. Let's say I have a plasma gun in a squad and a combi weapon firing as a plasma gun(or for that matter firing the bolter part)?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/09 03:05:04
Subject: Twin-linked and combi weapon profiles - when to resolve?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Every weapon of a different name fires at a different time, and different modes for weapons of the same name are counted as having different names too.
So, in the first example, the flamers (both twin-linked and non-twin-linked) fire at the same time. You'll still create a separate wound pool for the twin-linked flamer, since it'll be able to reroll to-wound rolls.
In the second example, the plasma gun, and the combi-plasma, are two differently named weapons. You'll fire one, resolve its attacks, and then resolve the other, potentially changing what's in range.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/09 03:32:22
Subject: Twin-linked and combi weapon profiles - when to resolve?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Yarium, the plasma gun portion of the combi-plasma is still a plasma gun and would fire with other plasma guns in the unit. Same with the bolter profile.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/09 06:45:48
Subject: Twin-linked and combi weapon profiles - when to resolve?
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Not as Good as a Minion
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Happyjew wrote:Yarium, the plasma gun portion of the combi-plasma is still a plasma gun and would fire with other plasma guns in the unit. Same with the bolter profile.
Correct. This is specifically stated in the Combi-Weapon rules.
As for the Twin-linked question, nothing is really stated if this is a different name or not.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/09 09:16:48
Subject: Twin-linked and combi weapon profiles - when to resolve?
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Irked Necron Immortal
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there's no way to properly resolve the twin-linked flamer unless it was in it's own pool. I'd say since the profile is the same, roll at the same time as the normal flamer to speed things up but keep a separate coloured die for the twin linked roll. That way both you and your opponent can see which die is the twin linked roll and if you miss the twin link (and get to re-roll) or if you missed with the flamer (and do not get to re-roll). If you don't keep them seperate somehow (either with individual rolls or different coloured dice) there's no way to know if the twin linked missed or the normal flamer
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/09 11:27:51
Subject: Twin-linked and combi weapon profiles - when to resolve?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Charistoph wrote: Happyjew wrote:Yarium, the plasma gun portion of the combi-plasma is still a plasma gun and would fire with other plasma guns in the unit. Same with the bolter profile.
Correct. This is specifically stated in the Combi-Weapon rules.
As for the Twin-linked question, nothing is really stated if this is a different name or not.
No, it's a combi plasma.
BRB, pg30, last paragraph:
"If a weapon can fire in more than one mode, or can fire more than one type of ammo, select a weapon mode /ammo type - treat weapons firing different modes/ammo types as differently named weapons. "
The weapon is named combi plasma, not plasma gun. It fires separately.
Edit: nvm. While in combi plasma mode it actually IS counted as an actually named Plasma Gun. BRB pg176
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/05/09 12:02:58
Subject: Twin-linked and combi weapon profiles - when to resolve?
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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For the twin linked, whether it is a "twin-linked" whatever, or a whatever with the twin-linked special rule it does not matter: it fires separately.
Technically speaking a "Twin-linked x", or "master crafted x" doesn't actually exist as a weapon.
We understand the prefix as applying the prefix special rule to the base weapon because that is clearly RAI.
For choosing a weapon(step 3 of the shooting rules) it is made very clear that weapons with different special rules are treated as differently named weapons(this would include an IC in a unit with a same-named weapon as everyone else but who has a special rule that applies to his shooting attacks)
So a t-l flamer and a flamer on the same model are 2 different weapons for shooting.
Combis fire their bolters as bolters, and their non-bolters as whatever they are. But that bit is somewhat confusing as you are basically making the choice for which part to use out of order.
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