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Hi
This is the first time I have had a go at painting warhammer.
I purchased a kit 3 space marines and paint & brush https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Space-Marines-Starter-Paint-Set-2016
I wanted to try and get a better finish, so I bought additional paints and a fine brush.
To follow this guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_odi1c7ErCg&index=19&list=PLEaPE4sLDA7s-26V0v6SepDFiznb3y6hx
I was doing ok until I applied the Drakenhof Nightshade ( 6.36 mins on video) .
This seems to have made the blue quite dark and does not look good.
Does anyone know why this would happen I followed the instructions.
Is it possible to paint over again with the base coat and start again. I read somewhere that you won't get an even colour if you do this.
Any advice would be welcome
Thanks

Nightshade is supposed to be really dark.
Just a hint. You minis does not need to be 1:1 to those in tutorials.

Thank you for your reply
Do you mean by "You minis does not need to be 1:1 to those in tutorials " That mine is exactly the same. I get that it is a guide ,just think that the blue got to dark. Is there a way that you can regulate Nightshade how dark it would make an item

You can neaten up with Macragge Blue by painting it over the areas that you applied the wash to and leaving the wash in the recesses.

the nightshade will darken it a fair bit, specially if you put quite a lot of it on...if it's turned out too dark and you don't like it, you can paint over it with the base colour again...try to leave the dark shade in all the crevices though, if you can...now, because you'll be painting over quite a dark colour, you will probably need to give it 2-3 nice thin coats (as Duncan often says in the tutorials, add a little water to your paint on the pallet to thin it out a bit, if you use the paint straight from the pot, it will be too thick, and you'll probably gunk up all the crevices and details, and possibly end up with thick "lumpy" paint on the model)

...apply one thin coat of the base colour - it will probably look a bit "streaky", that's OK...just let it dry, give it 15-30 mins...then apply another thin coat...if it's still a bit streaky, give it another, repeat as necessary (it is important to let each coat properly dry though! - if you try to paint over a half-dry previous coat, there's a good chance your brush will shift the previous coat, leaving a dark spot, with a ring of thick lumpy paint - I've done that many times, and it sucks, so trust me, be patient!)

painting takes time and patience, and learning a lot of small techniques through practice, there's no need to rush, and nobody expects your first models to look spectacular! you're learning - I've been painting for 2 years (which is nothing compared to some folks around here!), and looking back at my fist painted models...yeah, they're not the best!

just give it time, keep trying, you'll get the hang of it

oh, also, if you add a bit of water, or "lahmian medium" to the nightshade, say, a half-half mix, it won't be as dark...if you want a more subtle effect

ZoBo - Thanks.
I know it won't come out exactly the same but liked having something to judge by. I'll wait for my new fine detail brushes to come as the one I bought was not very good. I'll try tidying it up. I'll keep a note on add a bit of water, or "lahmian medium" to the nightshade.
Cheers

Ashenwyte - I will do that

I tend to like starting off with a black primer BUT the trick with painting black is to start more toward a grey.
Then you apply washes or "shade" paying attention to the crevices since the darkest spots on the model should be there.

Another way to "cheat" is to try "Zenithal highlighting".
Prime black, using a spray can or airbrush as the "light source" give a quick shot of white or grey and it will highlight the "lighter" areas.

"Payne's Grey" is the "proper" term for a black with some blue to it (was "chaos black" before) which gives the impression of black but is not true light sucking black.

"Awesome Paintjob" and "Painting Buddha" have some good black armor painting videos.

Talizvar
I am not painting with black - it was nightshade that made my blue to dark for my liking

aceuk wrote:
Talizvar
I am not painting with black - it was nightshade that made my blue to dark for my liking

Sorry, that's what I get for not paying attention enough.
You could try some light edge highlighting to make things seem a bit lighter.
You could also try a light drybrush of a slightly lighter blue on the raised or middle of surfaces to appear lighter.

I am tempted to prime white and see what the nightshade makes the model look like.
Most people I see online do a white prime, light blue glaze, then hit it with the nightshade then drybrush and highlight to suit.

Good luck!

Tried to mix some water into your shade (on a tile/palette)?

nightshade is dark because it is that, a shade.. meaning that you put it on your blue to create shadowed and recessed areas. then use your base colour to lighten it up as you work up to your highlight