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I just want to check that I've understood this correctly from the new FAQ:

Lets assume that the new FAQ stands and single models like monstrous creatures or walkers CAN declare a multi-assault regardless of the rest of the multi-assault rules saying that you can't.

FAQ wrote:Q: If you make a Disordered Charge against a vehicle and a non-vehicle unit, which close combat rules count for things like Sweeping Advances, Pile-ins or Consolidation moves?
A: Those that apply to the primary target of the charge.

BRB wrote:A model that is in base contact with, or engaged with, more than one enemy unit when it strikes blows, can split its Attacks freely between those units. Declare how each model is splitting its attacks immediately before rolling To Hit. Wounds from Attacks that have been directed against a unit in a multiple combat cannot be transferred to another unit, even if the original target unit is completely destroyed (in this case, any excess Wounds are simply discounted and have no further effect).

BRB wrote:If the vehicle loses the combat or is destroyed, nothing happens. There are no Sweeping Advances, no Pile Ins and no Consolidation moves. The vehicle and the enemy remain where they are and are free to simply move away in future turns.
If the vehicle wins the combat, the enemy must make a Morale check as normal, and Fall Back if they fail, though the vehicle cannot Consolidate or make a Sweeping Advance.

I charge a D-Thirster in to combat with a squad of Firewarriors and a Devilfish transport that was nearby.
If I declare the Tactical squad as the primary target, I can charge them and the Devilfish; allocate all of my attacks to the Transport and annihilate it, causing ~5 penetrating hits; and then sweep the poor FireWarriors in assault results as I scored 10 combat res (and he has I9 vs the firewarrior's I2)
OTOH If I declare the transport as the primary target, I wipe it out, the firewarriors lose combat and automatically fall back, but the D-thirster cannot chase them.

Does that sound correct?

Huh. So I tried to put a caveat in the original question to stop this debate from occurring. I guess I didn't really need to include it at all, the actual question works the same for multiple units charging, but I'm running a flying circus list at the moment that will need to deal with the situation a lot.




Yes, it does appear that IF the closest model in the primary target is already engaged with a friendly model AND the secondary target lies on the straight path between the charger and the primary target, it is possible for a single model to charge 2 targets at once.

On the other hand I don't believe that this is the situation that GW was referring to when they answered the question with a simple 'Yes'.
So now we're in a weird limbo where their stated answer either
a) answers a very very obscure question in a very general way, or
b) directly contradicts the existing rules WITHOUT going in to the mechanisms on how it contradicts the rules.

 Charistoph wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

 Charistoph wrote:
You can only get in to base contact with a Secondary Target if you cannot reach the Primary Target..

This is incorrect.

You can only base the secondary target if you can't reach an unengaged model in the primary. As long as the nearest model in the primary unit is engaged with someone else, you can meet that criteria.

And if your lone model has not reached the Primary Target on its own, it is not Engaged and has a failed Charge. So, you cannot go base to base with the Secondary Target until you have finished the Charge with the Primary Target, at which point you cannot

Move Initial Charger
Once Overwatch is resolved, find the initial charger for the primary assault (the model in the charging unit closest to the primary target) and attempt to move it into base contact with the primary target, just as you would against a single target. If his charge fails, the charging unit doesn’t move at all.

So, you cannot rely on another unit being linked up to the the Primary Target.

What he's saying is that there's no restriction on primary target being engaged with the charging unit. You're allowed to use friends for help.

So IF the closest model in the target unit is already engaged,
then it is impossible to get in to BTB with an unengaged model in the primary target (as you must charge the closest model)
so it is allowed to get in to BTB with a model in the secondary target
so long as you ALSO take the shortest route to the primary target.


I made a diagram that I think shows the situation: