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Somewhere in south-central England.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/item/17e31b95-cf72-4efe-acbb-f7f7bb127818

http://www.yucatanliving.com/news/yucatan-news-26

This brilliant story is about William Gadoury, whose hobby is ancient Mayan history.

William noticed a lot of Mayan cities are badly located for river or farmland resources and thought they might be located according to the constellations worshipped by the Mayans.

When he analysed the locations of 22 constellations and 117 known cities he found this theory corresponded well, but when analysing the 23rd he found he could only match two cities and was missing a third.

Theorising there might be an unknown city he got high-res satellite images from the Canadia Space Agency and bingo! there it was!!

The newly found city is the fourth largest known with an area of 100 square kilometres and 30 surviving buildings.

William has named it "The Fire Mouth".

Good job!

I'm writing a load of fiction. My latest story starts here... This is the index of all the stories...

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That is a fantastic story - thanks for sharing it here!
   
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The best part is all the butt hurt mayan experts being beat by a 15 year old.

 warboss wrote:
Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be.
 
   
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It’s no fun when a feel-good story has to get debunked, especially when it’s a story about a smart, science-loving kid. But, unfortunately, it seems obvious that reports of a Quebec teen “discovering” a lost Mayan city have been overblown.

William Gadoury, a 15-year-old from Saint-Jean-de-Matha, hypothesized that Mayans might have built their cities so they lined up with major constellations. In investigating his theory, he found that lots of cities seemed to line up with bright stars, but one major constellation seemed to be missing a settlement. When Gadoury got the Canadian Space Agency to turn a satellite over to that remote area, he spotted what seem to be man-made structures.

Gadoury’s enthusiasm is wonderful, and he did a neat experiment. But how much can we conclude from his informal findings? Not much. There’s a reason we didn’t cover this story when it started going viral Tuesday: Without a formal, peer-reviewed study of the stars-and-cities hypothesis (and even with one), it’s a bit reckless to run with the conclusion that it has been proven. And now many experts have chimed in to express skepticism.

For starters, the idea that matching up constellations to cities proves Mayan intent might be misguided.

“The Maya area was so densely occupied in Classic Maya times that many years ago a well known archaeologist, Ed Kurjack, told me that the area looked much like the Ohio Valley, denuded of trees and full of towns that were fairly close to one another,” Susan Milbrath, a curator at the Florida Museum of Natural History, told Wired. “So at any given point you would be likely to find an archaeological site.”

In other words, the apparent correlation between constellations and cities might be random. Wired’s Sarah Zhang also points out that we don't know which stars the Mayans clustered together into constellations (not every civilization has looked up and seen spoons of varying size), which makes a relationship between modern star charts and Mayan city planning even more dubious.

But what about that weird square-ish structure? The one that a remote sensing specialist and a Canadian Space Agency scientist both told the media were likely man-made?

Well, it’s probably something man-made. Like a recently abandoned field.

“You have to be able to confirm what you are identifying in a satellite image or other type of scene. In this case, the rectilinear nature of the feature and the secondary vegetation growing back within it are clear signs of a relic milpa,” Thomas Garrison, an anthropologist at the University of Southern California-Dornsife and an expert in remote sensing, told Gizmodo. “I’d guess it’s been fallow for 10 to 15 years. This is obvious to anyone that has spent any time at all in the Maya lowlands.”

Despite the updates from Gizmodo and the thorough debunking from Wired, breathless versions of this “science” story are still popping up all over the Web — which stinks. Citizen science is great, and it’s even more exciting when a teen does it. When folks don’t have the academic background to understand the standard school of thought on a subject — or understand why it has become the general consensus — they’re more likely to come up with novel and cool ideas. And maybe there’s some nugget of something in Gadoury’s research that will go somewhere. But that doesn’t mean we’re doing him — or the researchers who have devoted their lives to studying this stuff — any favors by letting this story run wild.


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Wow what a wet blanket.


 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
 
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