Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

It really is as simple as saying that Raven Guard do our Jump Pack Army better now. And Space Wolves as a whole do the general assaulty army better as they have harder hitting units with more survivability and movement.

We are meant to be an assault based army that quite frankly doesn't actually do very well at it. We struggle to get into combat and once we have we don't pack a good enough punch.

I love the flavour of the blood angels but Death Company are the only elite unit that Vanilla marines don't have that I think are worth it and quite frankly the Wulfen are now much better than them and so are thunder wolf cavalry.

Sanguinary Guard should be bosses in close combat, Furioso dreads should be better than vanilla dreads, and I have said for years DC should have an aura effect similar to what the WULFen have with the curse thing.

The only BA army I play at the moment is Flesh Tearers Strike Force Drop Pod Sternguard with Mephiston. It's expensive but the only one I can find to work and it really doesn't feel Blood Angelly.