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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/02 19:21:44
Subject: Chaos Daemons against my buddy's Black Templar and a knight - am I boned?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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So I have a friendly 2k point game against my buddy's BT and a knight. Here's what I'm bringing so far:
-Slaanesh Daemon Prince with Grimoire, gonna roll on Biomancy, take the Lash of Despair, hope for 2d6 S9 shots and try to take out the knight's back armor
-Bloodthirster, hoping to get Armorbane
-Great Unclean One, gonna roll Biomancy, hope for Iron Arm and charge the knight
-2X Soul Grinders, maybe destroy the knight in CC?
-20X Plague Bearers, try to glance it to death with touch of rust
I know my buddy will also bring some FW Land Raider, a FW Sicarus, Sternguard in a Drop Pod, Terminators, and a Thunderfire cannon. The knight is what I'm most worried about.
So basically, how screwed am I?
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~1.5k
Successful Trades: Ashrog (1), Iron35 (1), Rathryan (3), Leth (1), Eshm (1), Zeke48 (1), Gorkamorka12345 (1),
Melevolence (2), Ascalam (1), Swanny318, (1) ScootyPuffJunior, (1) LValx (1), Jim Solo (1), xSoulgrinderx (1), Reese (1), Pretre (1) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/02 20:35:14
Subject: Chaos Daemons against my buddy's Black Templar and a knight - am I boned?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Your GUO is NEVER going to catch the knight. It moves 6", the knight moves 12". Unless your opponent is plain stupid and walks it in, you're going to have a bad time.
Soul grinders are initiative 3 so they'll likely be the ones to be destroyed in CC. On top of that, they have the same problem as your GUO in that they'll never catch it.
Plageubearers: see above.
The same can be said for the Land raider and Sicarus.
I think you're very screwed because you're bringing a melee army that's outpaced by your opponents shooting army.
If you've got the models, I reckon going for an Infernal tetrad and fishing for a good Warlord trait on the Tzeentch table.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/02 21:11:25
Subject: Chaos Daemons against my buddy's Black Templar and a knight - am I boned?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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DaPino wrote:Your GUO is NEVER going to catch the knight. It moves 6", the knight moves 12". Unless your opponent is plain stupid and walks it in, you're going to have a bad time.
Soul grinders are initiative 3 so they'll likely be the ones to be destroyed in CC. On top of that, they have the same problem as your GUO in that they'll never catch it.
Plageubearers: see above.
The same can be said for the Land raider and Sicarus.
I think you're very screwed because you're bringing a melee army that's outpaced by your opponents shooting army.
If you've got the models, I reckon going for an Infernal tetrad and fishing for a good Warlord trait on the Tzeentch table.
Aye, I don't have the new Daemon rules nor the models. I really need to get some Screamers to deal with high armor. I think I am screwed, but this is a fun game, so at least I'll have a story to tell
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~1.5k
Successful Trades: Ashrog (1), Iron35 (1), Rathryan (3), Leth (1), Eshm (1), Zeke48 (1), Gorkamorka12345 (1),
Melevolence (2), Ascalam (1), Swanny318, (1) ScootyPuffJunior, (1) LValx (1), Jim Solo (1), xSoulgrinderx (1), Reese (1), Pretre (1) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/02 21:53:39
Subject: Re:Chaos Daemons against my buddy's Black Templar and a knight - am I boned?
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Evasive Pleasureseeker
Lost in a blizzard, somewhere near Toronto
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Bring a Str.D 'Thirster, spam Telepathy powers and prey for Invis, profit?!
Or just bring Be'lakor + Str.D 'Thirster and laugh as the feeble Knight flails about helplessly!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/02 22:02:07
Subject: Re:Chaos Daemons against my buddy's Black Templar and a knight - am I boned?
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Committed Chaos Cult Marine
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Experiment 626 wrote:Bring a Str.D 'Thirster, spam Telepathy powers and prey for Invis, profit?!
Or just bring Be'lakor + Str.D 'Thirster and laugh as the feeble Knight flails about helplessly!
Sadly Stomp ignores Invisibility, IIRC.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/03 18:05:51
Subject: Chaos Daemons against my buddy's Black Templar and a knight - am I boned?
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade
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Posh. All this nonsense about d thirsters and other shenanigans...
Khorne or plague bearers with invuln support buffs can bog down the knight.
Plague bearers can kill a land raider easy.
A knight anywhere near an edge can be caught by deep striking in the right place.
You are not boned you just need to play to your strength.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 0060/06/03 18:19:30
Subject: Chaos Daemons against my buddy's Black Templar and a knight - am I boned?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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sfshilo wrote:Posh. All this nonsense about d thirsters and other shenanigans...
Khorne or plague bearers with invuln support buffs can bog down the knight.
Plague bearers can kill a land raider easy.
A knight anywhere near an edge can be caught by deep striking in the right place.
You are not boned you just need to play to your strength.
Hope so. That or hope we play Maelstrom and I get lucky  I'll post an update to let you guys know how it goes
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~1.5k
Successful Trades: Ashrog (1), Iron35 (1), Rathryan (3), Leth (1), Eshm (1), Zeke48 (1), Gorkamorka12345 (1),
Melevolence (2), Ascalam (1), Swanny318, (1) ScootyPuffJunior, (1) LValx (1), Jim Solo (1), xSoulgrinderx (1), Reese (1), Pretre (1) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/03 18:46:15
Subject: Chaos Daemons against my buddy's Black Templar and a knight - am I boned?
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Omnipotent Necron Overlord
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Should be a good game. Knights have to get into CC to make up their points and you have plenty of units capable of taking it down without too much loss.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/03 23:34:19
Subject: Chaos Daemons against my buddy's Black Templar and a knight - am I boned?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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What is the new skull cannon formation buffs do again? makes them sig. 10 apocalyptic Barrage? seems like that would stomp BT and possibly the knight.
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taskforce Harbinger 3000pts Ishvale Ash Rats Violet Fems+ 2000ptsHouse Cadmus Knights and Defenders 3500
Deathwatch 6500 |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/03 23:38:52
Subject: Chaos Daemons against my buddy's Black Templar and a knight - am I boned?
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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ThirstySpaceMan wrote:What is the new skull cannon formation buffs do again? makes them sig. 10 apocalyptic Barrage? seems like that would stomp BT and possibly the knight.
They fire combined for a single normal blast but its apoc sized and ap3. That won't be a big threat to a knight singing as its a single S8 hit
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/04 05:09:55
Subject: Chaos Daemons against my buddy's Black Templar and a knight - am I boned?
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Well, almost tabled him. I seized the initiative, and then just spend a lot of time setting up my forces and casting spells. He made the mistake of holding back with his knight turn one, and by turn two I had everything in position. Murdered all his infantry with Soul Grinders, Bloodthirster, and nasty Biomancy.
Took the Knight down with two Soul Grinderrs, a Bloodthirster, and a Great Unclean One. Only the Great Unclean One survived, but no one had Iron Arm!
Overall, he rolled poor and i rolled hot all evening, but he definitely was not going easy on me. Even brought an Inquisitor who gave the whole Squad psyker Hunter, so beating him really felt good.
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~1.5k
Successful Trades: Ashrog (1), Iron35 (1), Rathryan (3), Leth (1), Eshm (1), Zeke48 (1), Gorkamorka12345 (1),
Melevolence (2), Ascalam (1), Swanny318, (1) ScootyPuffJunior, (1) LValx (1), Jim Solo (1), xSoulgrinderx (1), Reese (1), Pretre (1) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/05 15:47:51
Subject: Chaos Daemons against my buddy's Black Templar and a knight - am I boned?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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CrownAxe wrote: ThirstySpaceMan wrote:What is the new skull cannon formation buffs do again? makes them sig. 10 apocalyptic Barrage? seems like that would stomp BT and possibly the knight.
They fire combined for a single normal blast but its apoc sized and ap3. That won't be a big threat to a knight singing as its a single S8 hit
Thank you for the clarification must have a talk with buddy about the str. As he has smoked before with it at the specs I stated.
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taskforce Harbinger 3000pts Ishvale Ash Rats Violet Fems+ 2000ptsHouse Cadmus Knights and Defenders 3500
Deathwatch 6500 |
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