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So - if we take things like the Great Crusade, the Damocles Gulf Crusade, etc. off the table (ie: the Big Fluffy Ones )

1.) What's your favorite Crusade? Can you give a reason why?


2.) What Crusades do you think were very important for the continued existence of the Imperium?


3.) In your opinion, which Crusades have been total FUBAR /Disasters, etc?


4.) And which Crusade in the proximate current time period is eating up the most resources of the Imperium?

Personally, i feel like the Achilus Crusade in the Jericho Reach might fit the bill for this one - whatever gains were made by the initial push by the Imperium have been rolled back by a 3 front war with Chaos, the Tau, and a Hive Fleet.

The Achillis crusade is even WORSE when you realize that one of the space marine codexes (6th or 7th) mentions it, in the context of still being fought

The other notable crusade a lot of people will be able to talk about is the Sabbat World's crusade. As far as the OP's questions go, it seems to be a middling crusade, not being called out of any emergency and not ending in disaster.

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Abyssal_Crusade

 Otto Weston wrote:
https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Abyssal_Crusade

Well.. i think we know what may have won the FUBAR award....


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Mudrat wrote:
The other notable crusade a lot of people will be able to talk about is the Sabbat World's crusade. As far as the OP's questions go, it seems to be a middling crusade, not being called out of any emergency and not ending in disaster.

Aside from whatever attachment the reader may have had to Gaunt and his men.....

On the grandscale of things, i'd say that Crusades noteworthy tidbit was the reappearance of the Living Saint Sabbat, herself.

I think there's like what - 3 or 4 Living Saints we know of in the whole Imperium as opposed to all the run-of-the-mill Saints who don't pull of miracles...

The one to go stomp Helbrecht Huron iirc failed.

The Abyssal Crusade was by far the worst..... Turned about 20 SM chapters to chaos and was organised by a Chaos tainted eccesliarchy member.

1.) The Macharius crusade. He beat every single space marine legion in the amount of planets conquered within the same timespan and did it without astartes troops.


2.) All of them, the Imperium runs on crusades. Every time someone goes on a crusade a million movies are made, preachers on thousands of worlds cry out and epic pieces of literature is added to the Imperiums libraries.


3.) Failbaddon. Out of the 13 crusades some have been mere raids of a warband or two. Much talk, much hype, very little getting done. Give a Primarchs first captain 8.000years, the most powerfull chaos artefacts available and the fours approval and you'd think said person would accomplish more.


4.) Toughest one by far since numbers is the most dodgy thing there is in 40k. I'd say the Damocles Gulf Crusade because of the constant state of drawing forces away from it to respond to the tyranids. Tau and the Imperium are in a constant "oops, tyranids, let's fight later, k?" state atm.

Your argument for point 3. Is logically inconsistent. You mention 'Baddy is given the most powerful chaos artefacts available and the fours approval, but he wasn't given them; he crusaded for them...

... then again, wibbly wobbly timey wimey!

 Nerak wrote:
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4.) Toughest one by far since numbers is the most dodgy thing there is in 40k. I'd say the Damocles Gulf Crusade because of the constant state of drawing forces away from it to respond to the tyranids. Tau and the Imperium are in a constant "oops, tyranids, let's fight later, k?" state atm.

Isn't the Damocles gulf crusade over though? Didn't the Hive Fleet Invasion, followed by the 13th Black Crusade effectively end it, and that was why the Tau were able to embark on their third sphere of expansion?
Anyway...

1) The Abyssal Crusade. Gotta love it when Chaos completely dupes the Imperium from within. Opens the door for some great origin stories for Chaos warbands too.

2) The Great Crusade (duh), The Macharian Crusade, The Wars of Apostasy, The Cataclysm of Souls (this was the crusade that ended the Terra Nova Interregnum and brought the Segmentum Pacificus back into the Imperial fold)

3) The previously mentioned Abyssal Crusade, The Children's Crusade, The Proletarian Crusade, The Margin Crusade (although that wound up serving another purpose, so maybe not http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Margin_Crusade)
The Damocles Gulf Crusade didn't get much done, but I don't think it can be classed as a complete disaster.

4) The Crusade of Fire. It's on record as being the largest since the Macharian Crusade, so I'm gonna say that it definitely took up the most resources.
http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Crusade_of_Fire_(War)
Of course, unlike the crusades in #3, the Crusade of Fire was a SUCCESS, so if we're talking WASTED resources another choice might be better.

What about the Aurelian Crusade? That cost 2 planets and claimed about 80% of the Blood Ravens chapter by the end of it

G.A

 fallinq wrote:

Isn't the Damocles gulf crusade over though? Didn't the Hive Fleet Invasion, followed by the 13th Black Crusade effectively end it, and that was why the Tau were able to embark on their third sphere of expansion?
Anyway...

1) The Abyssal Crusade. Gotta love it when Chaos completely dupes the Imperium from within. Opens the door for some great origin stories for Chaos warbands too.

There was another campaign against the Tau. War Zone Damocles covered it. Once again they had to desperately withdraw forces to face another threat so quickly they left large numbers of Guardsmen behind.

Wasn't a fan of the Abyssal Crusade myself. Since when does a Saint have such power?