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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/09 06:54:23
Subject: Slaanesh army but which one?
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
Oahu Hawaii
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I want a 2500 point army of slaanesh but I've never played as chaos or against a chaos army of pure slaanesh.... How do they fair and which one should I play? I am open to all ideas.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/09 07:15:09
Subject: Slaanesh army but which one?
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Tunneling Trygon
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They are inferior to Nurgle. Plague Marines are more important in a CAD, Blight Drones are awesome, Nurgle Bikes are the ultimate mirror to Loyalists that CSM can muster and Obliterators, which are a very good unit, are only made good in the Nurgle flavor. So these areas are outright inferior choices, so go a different route.
So, Slannesh has some disadvantages but all is not lost. Sonic Dreadnoughts are a great meta-breaker against Bikes. Ignores Cover is gold, and S8 Ignores Cover is deadly to a whole lot of things. Noise Marines can be built up as expensive artillery with a Blastmaster per 5 guys or as Objective takers, not Objective holders though and not both in one squad. They are not Plagues and can't survive like a Plague can, so don't try to put them in that weight class with Icon of Excess. It's not worth it. Not sure what the math is but the T5 of a Plague makes them last a lot longer in my experience, making Icon of Excess fall a little flat. Load them up on CCWs Sonic Blasters, Dirge Casters on a Rhino or Raider and hurl them at an Objective when they have Obj Sec. They do work. I enjoy a unit of Chosen with Power Weapons in with Huron Blackheart, who also allows some Infiltrate as his Warlord Trait, just sayin, but they're a point sink. A lot of fun, rarely worth it though. Certainly not on a point for point level.
Seekers are just cool, but they're not an amazing unit. I do really like them but haven't been overly wowed by their results for the points. Daemonettes remind me of Hormagaunts. A bit faster than most, which gives them an Objective edge. Why take Cultists when you can have fast Cultists that can actually do stuff? No experience with the HQs since I've only played against and with Heralds of Tzeentch and Be'lakor as the HQ.
With the state Chaos is in, especially a fluffy Daemon choice like Slannesh, you need to focus on Objectives and winning the game on points in Maelstrom. My own Chaos doesn't have too hard a time against non-competitive lists as long as I focus on the points instead of the kills. Neuter their fast stuff via Sonics, then take board control with Daemonettes and Noise Marines. Outflank Seekers for late game options.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/09 07:37:11
Subject: Slaanesh army but which one?
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
Oahu Hawaii
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I have heard good things about the sonic drednought. Thanks for the input.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/09 08:13:09
Subject: Slaanesh army but which one?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Take a look at the "Grand Cavalcade" in the Daemonic Incursion and consider fielding multiples of them. It is really unique no opponent expects to be drowned in chariots it is a glass cannon but quite scary if used well and properly supported. You could even support it with more cheap AV by going for the CSM Mayhem Pack (datasheet) and Daemon Engine Pack ( black legion). Its risky I know but its a ton of fun vs non grav spam armies, Automatically Appended Next Post: What about this lists or a start. +++ New Roster (2480pts) +++ ++ Chaos Daemons: Codex (2013) (Formation Detachment) ++ + Formation + (4x )Grand Cavalcade ··Herald of Slaanesh [Exalted Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh] ··Seeker Cavalcade ····Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh [Exalted Alluress] ··Seeker Cavalcade ····Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh [Exalted Alluress] ··Seeker Cavalcade ····Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh [Exalted Alluress] ··Seeker Cavalcade ····Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh [Exalted Alluress] ··Seeker Cavalcade ····Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh [Exalted Alluress] ··Seeker Cavalcade ····Seeker Chariot of Slaanesh [Exalted Alluress] ++ Chaos Space Marines: Codex (2012) (Formation Detachment) ++ + Formation + Mayhem Pack ··Helbrute [Multi-melta, Power fist] ··Helbrute [Multi-melta, Power fist] ··Helbrute [Multi-melta, Power fist] ++ Chaos Renegade Knights (Chaos RK Forsworn Knight Detachment) ++ + Lord of War + Renegade Knight [Heavy Stubber, Reaper Chainsword, Thunderstrike Gauntlet, Twin Icarus Autocannon] Renegade Knight [Heavy Stubber, Reaper Chainsword, Thunderstrike Gauntlet, Twin Icarus Autocannon] Thats 33 vehicles and all are deadly fast.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/09 09:23:40
Subject: Re:Slaanesh army but which one?
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Grumpy Longbeard
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I avoid CSM, it REALLY needs an update.
As far as daemons go... I play Tzeentch, but I summon in Slaaneshi units.
Most Slaanesh daemons are glass cannons. Take seekers and daemonettes in large units (like 20) because 10 daemonettes can easily go down in a shooting phase. If you get into cc you put out A LOT of rending attacks (with seekers and daemonettes), volume of dice in cc and fast running are really your strengths.
The Keeper of Secrets is on foot, making her slower than the winged greater daemons, but she's vicious in cc (see above) and cheaper than the other big demons. Give her rewardS to make her more survivable. You need one to take multiple princes (having a greater daemon make princes dedicated to the same god heavy support instead of HQ).
Slaanesh princes are fantastic. Give them the lash (wings and armour go without saying for princes) and you have a shooting attack to trow out of the sky (assault 2d6 at strength user), add biomancy and you can get very dangerous.
Heralds go down easy, but they have I7 and put out some hurt, so are good in challenges and have a great locus to that end, and in general. You can have 4 heralds in a single HQ slot, Take a mix of psykers and cc heralds, but don't try to make any one herald do both.
You have access to excess, telepathy and malefic. I would advise you have some summoning (cursed earth would be good), but not too many rolls, the primaris is summoning so you have a good swap. Roll on malefic maybe twice over your army and swap the for summoning most of the time. You can bring back your dead seekers and daemonettes with summoning itself. Telepathy is great for you, invisibility on a Slaanesh daemon unit will let you drink the tears of your opponent in praise to She Who Thirsts.
Remember that all chaos psykers get the primaris of their god's psychic disipline, so you have a witchfire with all your psykers, always.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/09 19:53:30
Subject: Slaanesh army but which one?
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
Oahu Hawaii
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Yeah I kinda want to go space marines but I also kinda want to go daemons.... So I'm trying to choose correctly
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/09 20:10:42
Subject: Slaanesh army but which one?
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Evasive Pleasureseeker
Lost in a blizzard, somewhere near Toronto
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Loon wrote:Yeah I kinda want to go space marines but I also kinda want to go daemons.... So I'm trying to choose correctly
More Daemons and as few actual Marines as possible...
Really, outside of the MoN, Chaos Marines are a hopeless cause at this point. They simply cost far too much for what you get, have 0 special rules (unless you pay through the nose for those additional rules), and no delivery system for their million or so close combat options (Bikers & Spawn being the exceptions.)
Unless your opponent agrees to really dumb down their list to your level, you'll rarely have a close game with a mostly Chaos Marine army vs. anyone bar Orks & non-optimised Tyranids or Guard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/09 20:40:03
Subject: Slaanesh army but which one?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It is also worth looking at FW. The CSM codex isn't in the best condition but the FW alternatives are actually not bad at all. Expensive and obscure but not bad.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/10 02:24:46
Subject: Slaanesh army but which one?
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman
Oahu Hawaii
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What books shiukd I look into?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/10 04:10:01
Subject: Re:Slaanesh army but which one?
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Automated Rubric Marine of Tzeentch
Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
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IA13 has an awesome 666 point mega-daemon of slaanesh, IDK how good that is but its cool as hell!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/11 15:55:27
Subject: Slaanesh army but which one?
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Dakka Veteran
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IA 13 Slaaneshi Renegades can take a Sonic Dreadnought and a squad of Noise Marines within their detachment. Then ally in daemons. All categories covered
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