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Phil Kelly



Newark, New York

So i lack a camera to describe what is going on, but I'll do my best to describe what is going on here.

I ended up stripping some of my Tau models down to the plastic with Super Clean, take that Krylon Maxx and All in One!.

But after using a hose to hose them down I noticed that a lot of places look and feel as if it had been sanded down. This are models I bought from GW.

I thought 'Hey. This will be just fine if I prime it.' so I took a can of 98cent spray paint from Wal Mart and did it. It showed right through it. This made me go on edge but I went through and painted a model to see what it'll do. But it still shows through.

Tl:dr The models themselves appear and feel grainy in some of the discolored parts of the models. How do I get rid of this? Let it soak longer in Super Clean and scrub like a mad man with a nylon brush or eletric toothbrush?

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Dakka Veteran





Sounds like your stripper softened the minis and your scrubbing roughed up the surfaces.

As to fixing it i'd try running the blade of a knife over the surface to try and smooth it similar to removeing mold lines.
   
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Phil Kelly



Newark, New York

Skullhammer wrote:
Sounds like your stripper softened the minis and your scrubbing roughed up the surfaces.

As to fixing it i'd try running the blade of a knife over the surface to try and smooth it similar to removeing mold lines.


Never scrubbed them .. Just. . Used a hose.
   
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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade





Chicago

the cleaner could have had a bad reaction witht her plastic. some of those cleaners are ment to be cut with water. the did figs get grainer after the primer? If so if could also be a primer problem.

How many models are you trying to clean and re do? If your time is worth money it may be less of an investment to just find some clean models on the trade forum or ebay and pick those up to replace them.


 
   
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Infiltrating Broodlord






I have never had this happen with Super Clean and I have left models in fresh 100% undiluted Super Clean for over a year.

It could be that there is still some primer and/or paint that was not 100% removed, scrubbing stripped models with a toothbrush
helps to remove anything that is loose.

Some stubborn primers like car primer will strip like this and often need a second bath to fully remove.

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Legendary Master of the Chapter






IIRC The graininess can just come from the inital primer it self.

it could of been put on a bit think which can melt the plastic underneath.


 Unit1126PLL wrote:
 Scott-S6 wrote:
And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.

Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!

 
   
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Phil Kelly



Newark, New York

 Snoopdeville3 wrote:
the cleaner could have had a bad reaction witht her plastic. some of those cleaners are ment to be cut with water. the did figs get grainer after the primer? If so if could also be a primer problem.

How many models are you trying to clean and re do? If your time is worth money it may be less of an investment to just find some clean models on the trade forum or ebay and pick those up to replace them.




I'd rather not because I already invested a lot of money into these guys. .Stormsurge and Ghostkeel.




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 Deathklaat wrote:
I have never had this happen with Super Clean and I have left models in fresh 100% undiluted Super Clean for over a year.

It could be that there is still some primer and/or paint that was not 100% removed, scrubbing stripped models with a toothbrush
helps to remove anything that is loose.

Some stubborn primers like car primer will strip like this and often need a second bath to fully remove.



I'll try this too, but I already had my hammerhead soaking for about 8 hours, took it out and scrubbed at it, nothing. I used Krylon MAXX at the time. But nothing wasn't done ..


I mean in the end this guy here: http://pre03.deviantart.net/1754/th/pre/i/2016/160/c/f/tau_commander__by_fireheartxrd-da555zs.jpg He had the same effect around the sept markings quite badly but after doing quite a lot of work on him,
(Picture was taken when I had a friend over who has a camera.)

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Infiltrating Broodlord






It sounds like the primer you used either went on too thick, or while it was humid and caused the fuzzing. The brand you used might not be able to be removed 100% by Super Clean.

 
   
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Phil Kelly



Newark, New York

 Deathklaat wrote:
It sounds like the primer you used either went on too thick, or while it was humid and caused the fuzzing. The brand you used might not be able to be removed 100% by Super Clean.


That's troublesome if that is the fact. I left one of my models in Super Clean for about eight hours and scrubbed it with a nylon brush didn't help to much, so I guess the only way to really go around that is to work with it, then. Well that's a bummer. Kyrlon you bastard!

Thanks for the answer.
   
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Nasty Nob




Cary, NC

Some primers REALLY adhere to the model. I'd try a longer soak in Super Clean (since it's unlikely to hurt the model). It also would not hurt to try a different paint stripping solution like Purple Power--what works on one primer may not work on another. Given that the plastic is both discolored and grainy, I suspect it's the primer rather than damage to the surface of the actual model (but what do I know).

If that doesn't remove it, you might try very fine grade sandpaper (the stuff for modeling, not the stuff for woodworking) or a buffing disc on a Dremel (one of the cotton ones for polishing, not a sanding disc). Those can be used to smooth plastic models ANYWAY, so they should work on this too.

 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut




Scotland

After literally stripping hundreds of models over the years I know this problem very well! It is very hard to pinpoint what is causing it. I've used various different stripping solutions and to be honest this roughing effect has happened with all of them.
I'd agree with Da Butcha,it seems to be the type of primer used and the way that it adheres to the plastic surface/might even be what is in the plastic that is being used for manufacture. I recently changed to a different primer spray(this one is for car bodies) and one or two of the models looked a bit rough or furry looking,they were fine after painting.
As for sanding I wouldn't recommend it,but if you want to try I'd suggest using Alclad sanding papers.These are really fine diamond and are much smoother than the finest ordinary sandpaper. Use 12000 or 8000 grade of this range as I fear any other grades would seriously damage the model's surface.

 
   
 
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