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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/10 06:39:10
Subject: Choppa of Da Ragnarork
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Grey Knight Purgator firing around corners
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I have been playing this as the bearer must cause a causality with the Choppa to get the boost. However, it seems that to get the boost all the model equipped with it must do it cause a causality in the assault phase.
RAW: As it stands one can equip a Warboss with mega armor (Which gives a Power Klaw) and take the Choppa (Which does not take the place/replace any of the other weapons on the Warboss), then use the Power Klaw to get kills until the Choppa is Str 10 ap2 (Which is three Assault Phases) and then go about using a str 10 Ap2 weapon that swings at I4.
So if it is a big melee slug fest it is possible to get three assault phases in by the start of turn two, using the current Waaagh Gaz Supplement.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/10 14:01:59
Subject: Re:Choppa of Da Ragnarork
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Yep been doing this since the codex came out lol
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/10 21:30:47
Subject: Choppa of Da Ragnarork
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I might start to like this thing. The only downside to it is that it isn't a lucky stick and you can't take both of them :\
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/11 01:08:03
Subject: Choppa of Da Ragnarork
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yeah but you could give one the choppa and another the stikk, who runs lists with only one warboss anyway?
by the way... does the choppa get better if i destroy a vehicle with it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/11 01:25:35
Subject: Re:Choppa of Da Ragnarork
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No you can take the Lucky stik as it is from the Orc codex, and all of the Orkamedis gear from the Gaz Dex, it is allowed as per the gaz dex
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/11 01:38:32
Subject: Choppa of Da Ragnarork
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Yea, sounds even more flexible than goredrinker. This would even count overwatch.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/11 01:57:54
Subject: Re:Choppa of Da Ragnarork
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BLADERIKER wrote:No you can take the Lucky stik as it is from the Orc codex, and all of the Orkamedis gear from the Gaz Dex, it is allowed as per the gaz dex
But you still can only have one on a single model
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/11 02:29:12
Subject: Re:Choppa of Da Ragnarork
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For the Ork Dex yes, but there is no resrtiction on the Items from the Gaz dex, only that there can be more than one of each per army, in others words, I can take the Choppa, and the big boss pole, and the lucky stikk, and be legal.
As the Lucky stikk is restricted to one item from the Gork/Mork list, but having one Choppa and one Big Bosspole is not having more than one of each per army.
RAW: One lucky stikk, as only one item can be taken from that list per model, and any and all of the Kustom Gubbinz's so long as there is are no duplicates.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/11 02:34:54
Subject: Choppa of Da Ragnarork
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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The FAQ Draft makes all relics one per model max unless specified
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/11 02:37:32
Subject: Re:Choppa of Da Ragnarork
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Orkimedes' Kustom Gubbinz: Any units from a detatchment or formation presented in this book that can select Gifts of Gork and Mork can select an item from Orkimedes; Kustom gubbinz, presented opposite, at the point cost shown, in addition to the gifts of Gork and Mork from Codex Orks.
Are you referring to this FAQ? https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1610528622601104&id=1575682476085719
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/11 02:47:26
Subject: Re:Choppa of Da Ragnarork
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BLADERIKER wrote:Orkimedes' Kustom Gubbinz: Any units from a detatchment or formation presented in this book that can select Gifts of Gork and Mork can select an item from Orkimedes; Kustom gubbinz, presented opposite, at the point cost shown, in addition to the gifts of Gork and Mork from Codex Orks.
Emphasis mine.
Which simply means he can choose from both lists, not that he can take multiple items.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/11 02:57:27
Subject: Re:Choppa of Da Ragnarork
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I do not agree with you interpretation.
As "in addition to" can also mean to have items from both lists on one model.
Also you are making rule quotes from a "Still in Draft form FAQ", meaning that the proposed rule changes have not been finalized, are not implemented as yet, and still subject to change. Thus not valid until such a time as they are no longer in Draft form. As a Draft and the final copy are not the same thing, Go ask any College professor about this difference.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/11 03:05:34
Subject: Re:Choppa of Da Ragnarork
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You're wrong. Its telling you that in addition to choosing from the Gifts of Gork and Mork list, you can choose from Okimedes Kustom Gubbins list. It says nothing about how many items you can take, therefore the FAQ limitation is in effect.
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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/11 06:51:46
Subject: Re:Choppa of Da Ragnarork
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The current FAQ makes no such limitation, Please show me in the current FAQ where this Limitation is?
Note: That the Drafted FAQ is not in its final Form as per the Warhammer 40000 Facebook page and I quote "We’ll leave these up for a week, then we’ll pass on your comments to the rules guys for the final FAQs.".
The final FAQ's for the drafted rules have not been posted, and there is no guaranty that any or all of the drafted changes will make the final cut. Without regard to that I will follow the FAQ's as written.
Now where in the current FAQ for the BRB is there such a limitation given regarding the number of Relics/Named Items a single character can take?
Here is the link to the Current and Valid 40K BRB FAQ https://www.games-workshop.com/resources/PDF/Errata/Warhammer_40000/Warhammer_40000_Rules_EN.pdf
Can you provide a link to the final version of the Drafted/Proposed FAQ changes? or can you not?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/11 14:04:22
Subject: Choppa of Da Ragnarork
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BLADERIKER wrote:
I have been playing this as the bearer must cause a causality with the Choppa to get the boost. However, it seems that to get the boost all the model equipped with it must do it cause a causality in the assault phase.
RAW: As it stands one can equip a Warboss with mega armor (Which gives a Power Klaw) and take the Choppa (Which does not take the place/replace any of the other weapons on the Warboss), then use the Power Klaw to get kills until the Choppa is Str 10 ap2 (Which is three Assault Phases) and then go about using a str 10 Ap2 weapon that swings at I4.
So if it is a big melee slug fest it is possible to get three assault phases in by the start of turn two, using the current Waaagh Gaz Supplement.
I thought the same but we won't know until the or codex faq drops.
Also I'm almost positive the choppa of ragnarork ends up S 10 AP 1.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/06/11 15:16:44
Subject: Re:Choppa of Da Ragnarork
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It can get to AP1, I was just using AP2 as a point of reference.
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