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It's a pretty small formation with some serious buffs. The daemon prince doesn't see any improvement unfortunately, but at least they are still somewhat useful as they are.
The possessed on the other hand pack some serious punch and that leadership test thing isn't really hard to avoid either. In a vehicle it doesn't matter and when they're stuck in combat it doesn't hurt either.
You pay almost terminator prices but you get a pretty respectable statline no matter hat mark.
With khorne and the banner you can threaten even land raiders in a single charge if you happen to get the +1A mutation. And no matter what mutation, even with just AP3 and 10 guys you inflict like 7-8 unsaved wounds on TEQ, while most likely striking first. So khorne possessed can go toe to toe with just about any unit in the game. And they just get better vs marines.

The other marks are all more durable and 2/3 mutations will make them almost wipe out MEQ units, which is kinda better than killing them in a single charge and slaanesh possessed will hit even before the majority of special characters. And if we assume that TEQs rarely come in units of 10, they perform pretty well against those too.

There is only one way to get them into combat though. You would pretty much need to take a spartan with frag launchers. That way they get to keep the initiative bonus regardless of terrain. Unless you fancy your chances with a dreadclaw/kharybdis.
Being daemons means that even Mark of Tzeentch isn't bad. Take a Sorcerer with them and roll on malefic. Cursed earth means you now have possesed with storm shields and you get to accurately deepstrike any summoned units around you. And let's not forget you still have a prince around, so that could do the summoning part if needed.
Sanctic might even be interesting for khorne, hammerhand gives you S8 on the charge and results of 3,5 or 6 aren't half bad either if you don't get hammerhand.

To me they seem worth the points. the only downside being that you need two of them and I wouldn't consider it viable to put both units in a spartan. Then again, even if they don't strike first, they still hit pretty hard as long as you're not assaulting dedicated assault units. So perhaps outflanking the other unit or sticking them in a claw/rhino would still be ok?

I don't see any bonus here. Possessed have a problem with fragility for point cost. This formation actually makes that worse, forcing tax and making them less reliable in movement.

Hence the spartan. They won't be shot and can assault pretty much at will. Even if the second unit isn't going to be as good as the one in the spartan, the enemy will be forced to deal with that one first, since they are looking at a turn two assault otherwise.

That takes the heat of the other unit and as far as tax units go, this one isn't half bad. I don't like either the vanilla possessed or the CS ones, but these come with rending, always, all the time. The WS and I bonus is just icing on the cake really.

You hit most units on 3+, go first most of time ( least with the spartan), wound most stuff on 3+ or better, fearless, fleet, rending and 3+/5++. How many other units get that for 30ish points per model? Fragile? Yes, but considering what you get for those points I think it's actually ok. They should get a second wound, but as far as csm units go, I'd say these are pretty decent.

So how many points is the formation, plus the Spartan, plus the CAD requirements to take the Spartan? Let's see if it can fit in a list.


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How about this.. went khorne so the legacy can boost invulnerable saves.
+++ Tormented (1651pts) +++

++ Chaos Space Marines: Codex (2012) (Formation Detachment) ++

+ (No Category) +

Force Options (Supplement options here) [Black Legion]

+ Formation +

The Tormented
Daemon Prince [Axe of Blind Fury, Khorne, Power Armour, Wings]
Possessed [Icon of Wrath, Mark of Khorne, 20x Possessed, Possessed Champion, Veterans of the Long War]
Possessed [Mark of Khorne, 4x Possessed, Possessed Champion, Veterans of the Long War]

++ Chaos Space Marines: Codex (2012) (Combined Arms Detachment) ++

+ (No Category) +

Force Options (Supplement options here) [Crimson Slaughter]

Show Forgeworld

+ HQ +

Sorcerer [2x Additional Mastery Level, Melta bombs, Power Armour, Sigil of corruption]

+ Troops +

Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion, 9x Cultists]

Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion, 9x Cultists]

+ Heavy Support +

[FW] Chaos Spartan Assault Tank [Armoured Ceramite, Dirge caster, Legacy of Ruin: First War of Armageddon, Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter, Two Sponson-mounted Quad Las


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Ugh except possessed aren't daemons of x in the normal codex

Dunno if I'd spring for 20 possessed, seems a bit overkill. Taking your average nurgle mace prince, a unit of 5 and one of 10 with a spartan puts you at roughly 1000 points. With no upgrades to speak of except for frag launchers + ceramite because those are pretty much mandatory. So you probably still want to spend some extra points on marks/icon and maybe making the prince a psyker, meaning, more often than not you'll be closer to 1.2k points. Not including the extra HQ and troops.
Maybe a bit too expensive for competitions. In a more semi competitive meta, the units as such should still perform pretty well I'd say. Well, at like 1850 games, anyway. Depending on what prince you take, you have solid anti tank and two hard hitting melee units. The spartan is sporting 4 lascannon shots after all, and even a basic prince is decent against most tanks thanks to rear armour 10. Even some anti air thanks to wings.

If it's a Black Legion formation, you can't do the AoBF build for the prince. You at least have the EW skull available though.

Yes you can. With the new supplements you can mix the vanilla artefacts with the supplement ones, you just can't combine the supplements on one guy. Or well, you can in theory but it 's not actually possible.

Just ally in wulfen and prox them with possessed. The only way to make them work.

I'd rather straight up use gal vorbak then .

I think KDK have the best possessed. (But no spartans..)

Captyn_Bob wrote:
I think KDK have the best possessed. (But no spartans..)

I think they're all bad, except for these. Even then, given the hidden costs of the formation they are very restrictive. The formation pretty much becomes your list. There's only enough points left for some cheap support units like rapiers, maulerfiends, helblades... that kinda stuff. Also, btw, thanks, I hadn't considered how big of a chunk this formation actually is in terms of points.

I really really dislike random effects though, so I might be biased.

Still not even close to being at least mediocre.

Yeah. And nearly every crimson slaughter formation has them(without obsec if course), which is a joke.

I tried making a coherent list using the crimson slaughter super formation. It can't be done. When I got to over 3k and still had nothing but junk I gave up.