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Hello could i get some thoughts on this list.

HQ
Praetor ROW hammer of olympia
digital lasers
mastercrafted paragon blade
volkite charger

Siege breaker
artificer armour
power fist

troops
3x 10 tacticals
extra combat weapons
artificer armour and melta bombs on sergeant

elites
1 unit of 3 quad mortars
shatter shells
Phosphex

heavy support
10 iron tyrants

10 iron havocs
autocannons

From what I've seen so far I'd suggest the following:

1. take 20 man tac squads unless you are short of points or plan on slapping them in a transport

2. I too have autocannons on my havoks but most will say to change to have some missile launchers for the blasts/higher strength hits.

3.just cos I'm a hair splitter - they are Tyrants, not iron tyrants

But other than that you've chosen solid stuff for an effective and fluffy IW list

Good luck and may your hazard stripes always be straight!

1. I considered it but since i want to use hammer of olympia its not happening
2. I have 10 with autocannons 10 mith ml and 10 with lasscannon but if i use the tyrants more ml is a bit of a waste unless i think ill be seeing plenty of flyers and thats unlikely in 2k
3. Yeah they just go as iron tyrants in my head instead of Tyrant siegers lol
Im worried about it being a bit too combat effective despite being nice and fluffy as its only been beaten in our group by the guy who power games 30k and that was only because we played about 12 turns and finished with him victorious and only 6 models left on the table.

Why are you taking Hammer of Olympia? You aren't taking advantage of it at all. Its not a good RoW to begin with. You would be better off taking PoL and using specialist vet squads instead. Or no RoW at all, ditch the praetor and buff your tacs to 20 each and throw in an apothecary in each with a scanner.

There's never a waste of Havoks with missile launchers. They are the point it at a target unit and it disappears unit. Great for almost everything.

Why would i change 20 krak missiles and 20 autocannons for 30 krak missiles? Thats just silly lol the siege breaker will be with the tyrants so they have tank hunter anyway and the autocannons give me a good rate of high strength shooting on inf and vehicles. Hammer of olympia allows all three of my tac squads to rapid fire and then charge, dropping the preator isnt an option as i need at least one model in the army that can do some good single combat although an apothecary in my tacs would be nice, however that makes them a bit stronger and my current meta is trying to avoid making lists absurdly strong.

I use both 10 tyrants and 10 havocs with missiles.

The Havocs are my assassination squad with their -1 to cover save thing and bs5. They have insta-killed numerous HQs. With marines being the normal opponents, AP 3 and str8 is superior to ap4 and str7, even if its 10 less shots. Tyrants are more general purpose filling in the gap and slowly marching up the field in my smaller lists.

Iron Havoc MLs also come with FLakk. Which is rare in 30K.

Hmmm, Id say try and fit in more Tactical. atleast 15x in each squad.

Also look into using atleast 2 apothecaries. If you are walking those guys up the field you will need the extra support.

Praetor, Termie armor, Chainfist combi gun- 150

Elites: 1x Apoth - 45
Elites: 1x Apoth - 45

Trps: 15x tactical - 200
Trps: 15x tactical - 200
Trps: 15x tactical - 200

HS: 10x Iron Havocs 10x Autocannons - 310
HS: 10x Tyrant siege Termies - 545

total 1745, Fill that up based on what else you might want to include.

Yea i generally use apothecaries in my pride of the legion force but unfortunatley i couldnt find the right place to pull the points from. I wont be increasing the size of the tacs squads as it would be a waste of points 10 kitted up tacs will generally out fight 15 bare tacs and it means thats the first place i can go when i increase the list to 2500.

So looking through suggestions and matching how i like to play and what my local meta looks like i have finished with this, thoughts?

2k

Praetor (hammer of olympia)
Iron Halo
Digi Lasers
MC Paragon Blade

Siege breaker

3 x 10 Tacs
Extra combat weapons

Apothecarion det
x2 Apothecaries

Quad launchers
x3 launchers
shatter shells
phosphex shells

10 havocs with autocannon
10 tyrants

Consider breaking up the quad launchers into 3 units of one. It can help with not overkilling and wasting shots. It also means that your opponent has to split his shooting against them.

I like that idea im going to give the list a try with the quads as single units.

 King Amroth wrote:
Yea i generally use apothecaries in my pride of the legion force but unfortunatley i couldnt find the right place to pull the points from. I wont be increasing the size of the tacs squads as it would be a waste of points 10 kitted up tacs will generally out fight 15 bare tacs and it means thats the first place i can go when i increase the list to 2500.

So looking through suggestions and matching how i like to play and what my local meta looks like i have finished with this, thoughts?

2k

Praetor (hammer of olympia)
Iron Halo
Digi Lasers
MC Paragon Blade

Siege breaker

3 x 10 Tacs
Extra combat weapons

Apothecarion det
x2 Apothecaries

Quad launchers
x3 launchers
shatter shells
phosphex shells

10 havocs with autocannon
10 tyrants

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Looking alot better those Apothecaries are going to make a huge difference. you have some major artillery and you've got your objective holders. play test and gl

Nah the apothecaries probably wont make much of a difference, im expecting it to be something i will remove after playtesting, spending 90 points that i would like to use elswhere to give two squads FNP 5+ isnt worth as much as it could be because of my army composition. In the 2500 list there will be one with AA and an augury scanner in all 3 20 man tac squads with a tooled up sergeant in aa with a power sword and melta bombs and that will make them very worth it.

Nah, those apothecaries WILL be worth it: you have a really small army. you're tac squads will die really quick because there's just too much that mulches 10-man squads, even with your artillery support :(

Must be a quirk of my meta, it is very tank heavy so i see alot of high strength weapons and a lot of ap1-2 but not a lot of firing volume. I dont really like using tanks so it unusual to find anyone able to knock that many bodies off the board and obviously a lot of whats gonna get fired will be double my toughness so no FNP. Thankfully between not taking morale tests for shooting, invun saves and cover saves i can usually keep my guys combat effective.