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Do you think your current tournament list can beat this? Are you rock or paper (or scissors) to my scissors?

Gladius:

Khan, Moondrakkan
Chaplain, hunter's eye
Attack bike, multimelta
Assault squad, drop pod, 2 flamers
Tactical squad, drop pod, meltagun, combimelta
Tactical squad, drop pod, meltagun, combimelta
Tactical squad, drop pod, meltagun, combimelta
Tactical squad, drop pod, flamer
Tactical squad, rhino, grav cannon
Tactical squad, rhino, grav cannon
Devestator squad, rhino, 2 multimeltas
Devestator squad, rhino, 2 multimeltas

Scout bikes, meltabombs, cluster mines
Scout squad, land speeder storm
Scout squad, land speeder storm, multimelta

Astra Militarum allied detachment:
Company command squad
Ministorum priest
Ministorum priest
Platoon command squad
Infantry squad
Infantry squad
Conscripts (47)
Wyvern

Almost everything here has an alternate deployment mechanism like scout, outflank, infiltrate, or deep strike. At 135 infantry, 5 bikes, and 12 vehicles, it's boyz before toyz.

The basic plan against gunline armies: Most of the army, including all rhinos and the conscript blob led by khan and the ministorum priests, scout forward. Apply chaplain where convenient. One turn 1, drop pods come in. On turn 2 the conscript blob (with Khan and ministorum priests) should be able to assault, and then it's all hit-and-run shenanigans. The alpha strike, combined with the sheer size of the army and the drop pods hampering movement and the scouting, should lock my opponent in their own deployment zone for basically the whole game.

The plan against flying demons or hive tyrants:
Aim to go second. Keep the small units off the board to avoid nova powers. Pick a hive tyrant and shoot him with everything, esp. ignore cover grav cannon using the tactical doctrine, and conscripts with orders to monster hunt or shoot extra. On the last turn, bubble-wrap key objectives.

The plan against assault armies:
Delay them with drop pods in the way in, weaken anything that can chew through the blob too quickly. Use grav to reduce initiative to 1, then use blind to reduce WS and BS to 1. Then tar-pit, hit and run, and repeat. Use ministorum priests to let the blob reroll saves.

The plan against drop pod dominated armies:
Outflank a few units. Bubble wrap everything good at killing marines behind a thick wall of conscripts that can scout if necessary. Supplement with infiltrated scouts if useful.

Interesting list have you had a chance to use it much?

Sort of.
I played a couple games with a similar list (no grav guns, less drop pods, no hunter's eye) and had two crushing victories.

The first was a game 2 concession by an elite iron hands list.
The second was against a very good tournament player playing flying demons and 2++ rerollable saves. He seized the initiative on me, but I still tarpitted his screamerstar with conscripts, after taking much more damage than I would have had I got first turn. My list took all the damage he could dish out and was still big enough to hold most objectives after 6 or 7 turns.

Then I added the grav cannons and more multimeltas and played one more game, which I lost narrowly against a flying hive tyrant spam list. Had I paid more attention at the end of the game I probably could have won, though. Or had I chosen to go second.

The most recent edit is removing a lot of wargear from the guardsmen and adding a second land speeder storm and the hunter's eye. Also, replacing a bike squad with the assault squad with flamers.

Feel free to suggest any substitutions! I have about $100 in store credit right now, and also lots of bikes and guardsmen wargear options.

Also tell me how your list would handle dealing with this one.

Very interesting list! It would have been fun to try a game against it, too bad I live in Sweden.

In my current tourney list i run 3 vultures, 2 wyverns and a 3 stack artillery carriages combined with Coteaz for anti deepstrike.

I also have a meleeblob similar to yours with a priest and inquisitor with rad granades.

I guessing I would have a chance of shoot thru your army and kill the remains in CC with my blob.

I'm amazed that you can take so many guardsmen in an allied detachment. Very interesting. Not sure how it would do in ETC format with the kill points, but I can imagine it doing well at ITC. How do you scout your guard blob?

Attaching Khan (or another white scars character on a bike, who all have scout thanks to Khan being the warlord). If one model has scout, the whole army has scout.

I'm considering switching out the 10th company task force and the wyvern for the armored task force: 2 whirlwinds and a vindicator, and a bike for the techmarine. That gets me boosted cover for the artillery pieces, a 2+ save that the ministorum priests can make rerollable in the assault, and a few spare points to spend on wargear for some of the guard squads.


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