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2016/07/12 20:43:10
Subject: Hi, I'm a person looking to get into Warhammer 40k, and I need some advice.
I know that this hobby is practically a wallet murderer, but I want to ask what I need to start this hobby?
This is a list of every item I'm getting/I know I need so far:
1.) Dark Vengeance Starter Set
2.) Space Marines Codex
3.) A minifigure gaming case
Now I need to know what I'm missing, and what I need to start painting these sets. I've already decided that I would rather have the Dark Angels of this set than the Chaos Marines.
2016/07/12 21:10:03
Subject: Re:Hi, I'm a person looking to get into Warhammer 40k, and I need some advice.
Everything, as far as boardgaming, is in the dark vengeance set, apart from the codices. Therefore you'll have to buy the dark angel one if you consider play them. As far as painting I'm no good painter and prefer let it too the better.
Be careful though: a 8th edition is rumored to be released around next year. Unless you then stick to your 7th edition book, you might have to buy another rulebook.
Besides, there is another solution existing: second hand market. Especialy if you're willing to play Something else than SM/CSM, that can get you some great discount. Notice that you still have to uy the codices and basic game supplies nevertheless.
Wishing to have been helpful.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/07/12 21:10:46
40k: Necrons/Imperial Guard/ Space marines
Bolt Action: Germany/ USA
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2016/07/12 21:16:12
Subject: Hi, I'm a person looking to get into Warhammer 40k, and I need some advice.
First off, decide if you want to collect generic space marines, or dark angels, as they have different codex's. Then read it and see what you like the look of. I'm a huge believer in models before rules, so I buy the models I like first and foremost. Read the rule book and the codex to help decide what units you want to add next.
As for painting, I'd start with the gw base paint box to get your staple colours. Then add the wash box to start adding shades. If you buy from a gw store, you can swap paints you definitely won't need for ones that will be more useful straight away. The boxes come with brushes, so you can get straight on with it.
Hope you have fun with the hobby
Edit and clippers and a hobby knife, a cutting mat is also a worthwhile purchase.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/07/12 21:22:49
The DV set is a good place to start. You get a good selection of different units and they are easy to assemble and play with right away. That said, you will probably need to come up with a second troops unit (either a Tactical squad or a Scout squad) to have a legal force. Fortunately scouts aren't too expensive. As the guy above mentioned, the second-hand market (eBay, etc.) is a great way to get minis at a discount.
Do you want to play Dark Angels, or would you rather play regular Space Marines? If DA, the minis are already ready to go and all you need is the DA codex. If regular SM, you may want to scrape the DA icons off of everything unless you don't mind the chapter symbol being the same as the DA one.
As far as gaming cases goes, there are a lot of good ones out there. I personally use a Battlefoam P.A.C.K. 720 case, as it has a lot of room for a large-ish army. I hear good things about KR Multicase stuff as well, though.
As far as hobby supplies, you will need some kind of glue and some kind of cutters to separate the pieces from the sprues. If you plan on painting your stuff (as most do), any kind of hobby/craft paint is okay, although some are better than others. People more qualified than me can tell you more about what kind of paint. You will want to prime your minis before painting. For this, I recommend using something like Rustoleum American Accents primer (4 dollars a can at Walmart), at least if you want to prime black (black is probably the best color to prime unless your minis are going to be a bright color, in which case use white or gray).
Hope that helps!
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2016/07/13 01:17:32
Subject: Hi, I'm a person looking to get into Warhammer 40k, and I need some advice.
If you are just starting out, I would suggest the second hand market as well, I've gotten all kinds of great deals on ebay. You could just get the DA from the Dark Vengeance set on there for a lot less then buying the whole set.
Hobby Lobby is your friend as well, can get a good knife which is all you need to cut, and clean off anything on the model. Decent brushes as well, since they usually have 50% deals going. They also just started selling Vallejo paints, which are some great paints.
So here is a list of items to start with,
Models, hobby knife, a good light, model glue, primer, paints, brushes, measuring device, dice, codex, rule book, case for the models.
2016/07/13 01:23:25
Subject: Hi, I'm a person looking to get into Warhammer 40k, and I need some advice.
Unless you really want to do DA or CSM, you might consider looking at GW's Start Collecting series. They're a great deal for what you spend (as far as GW prices go )
2016/07/13 21:53:00
Subject: Hi, I'm a person looking to get into Warhammer 40k, and I need some advice.
Alternatively, if you really like Space Marines, Betrayal at Calth is the best bang for your buck Space Marines have right now. the 3 tactical squads are fully usable in normal 40k and are fully compatable with other marine stuff (so if you get a box of devastators, you can get a lot of heavy weapons in). The Terminator captain and chaplain are good HQs for now and the Dreadnought is just awesome.
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2016/07/14 08:34:58
Subject: Re:Hi, I'm a person looking to get into Warhammer 40k, and I need some advice.
Nyoom wrote: Unless you really want to do DA or CSM, you might consider looking at GW's Start Collecting series. They're a great deal for what you spend (as far as GW prices go )
If I remember well, either they aren't a legal force (IG, orks), either you don't get the least penny off the total price. A friend of mine did calculate it and came to this conclusion. So I oppose this advice: this isn't interesting. Please do correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not always perfect.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/07/14 08:35:06
40k: Necrons/Imperial Guard/ Space marines
Bolt Action: Germany/ USA
Project Z.
"The Dakka Dive Bar is the only place you'll hear what's really going on in the underhive. Sure you might not find a good amasec but they grill a mean groxburger. Just watch for ratlings being thrown through windows and you'll be alright." Ciaphas Cain, probably.
2016/07/14 11:31:15
Subject: Re:Hi, I'm a person looking to get into Warhammer 40k, and I need some advice.
Nyoom wrote: Unless you really want to do DA or CSM, you might consider looking at GW's Start Collecting series. They're a great deal for what you spend (as far as GW prices go )
If I remember well, either they aren't a legal force (IG, orks), either you don't get the least penny off the total price. A friend of mine did calculate it and came to this conclusion. So I oppose this advice: this isn't interesting. Please do correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not always perfect.
As I understand it, you're wrong on all counts. Each Start Collecting box includes rules to field the contents as a formation. Also the savings are pretty good.
Take for example the recent Dark Eldar box.
Contents - archon, Kabalite warriors, raider and reaver jetbikes.
Add them up individually on the GW web store - £78.50. Start Collecting box for £50? Bargain.
2016/07/14 12:43:17
Subject: Re:Hi, I'm a person looking to get into Warhammer 40k, and I need some advice.
Nyoom wrote: Unless you really want to do DA or CSM, you might consider looking at GW's Start Collecting series. They're a great deal for what you spend (as far as GW prices go )
If I remember well, either they aren't a legal force (IG, orks), either you don't get the least penny off the total price. A friend of mine did calculate it and came to this conclusion. So I oppose this advice: this isn't interesting. Please do correct me if I'm wrong, I'm not always perfect.
I know that GW produces a lot of boxed sets that provide no discount, but the start collecting ones do have a pretty good bang for your buck. As far as legal forces go, my understanding is that anything is legal in 7th edition, so ion my opinion it's really just up to you and your friends to come to an agreement.
2016/07/14 15:30:42
Subject: Re:Hi, I'm a person looking to get into Warhammer 40k, and I need some advice.
Ok thanks for correcting. I'm gonna hide and die in shame now. Though buy legal I meatn: any useful on a table.
This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/07/14 15:31:17
40k: Necrons/Imperial Guard/ Space marines
Bolt Action: Germany/ USA
Project Z.
"The Dakka Dive Bar is the only place you'll hear what's really going on in the underhive. Sure you might not find a good amasec but they grill a mean groxburger. Just watch for ratlings being thrown through windows and you'll be alright." Ciaphas Cain, probably.
2016/07/14 16:19:18
Subject: Hi, I'm a person looking to get into Warhammer 40k, and I need some advice.
I'd get the Start Collecting box for the army you want, the codex for the army you want, and then the 7th edition Dark Vengeance rulebook for the game on eBay. I'd pick up a can of black or white spray primer from any given hardware store (I recommend Krylon) and the colors you think you'll want to paint the army. There are buttloads of tutorials out there on Youtube, blogs and forums like this one, and GW's own publications. I'd get one that seems simple enough and use that as a basis for the army you're collecting.
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2016/07/14 16:27:48
Subject: Hi, I'm a person looking to get into Warhammer 40k, and I need some advice.
Since I don't game, just paint, my advice is regarding the modelling aspect of the hobby, so here goes nothing . First a bit of advice - avoid GW as much as you can. GW re-brand and price-hike everyday products and market them like they're the best thing since sliced bread (Nevermind that sliced bread is pretty awful anyway! ) You'll be best served by browsing eBay or going to your local hobby/craft stores and simply trying out various products similar to GW's and seeing what works best. You'll soon find alternatives to GW that are cheaper and just as effective. You can quite literally half the price of getting started by just being savvy and using your common sense.
Anyway, if I was to write out a shopping list for a beginner to the hobby (In spoilers because of length) it would be these items and in this order:
Spoiler:
Set of Models
Duh.
Glue
The brand you want is Revell Contacta. I'm not sure if U.S hobbyists stock it, but Revell are a well known kit manufacturer so I have to assume that it's available in the US. You can get 12g or 25g bottles with a long needle applicator. So long as you're precise with you application, one bottle should last a long while. You should also pick up a small pot of superglue to use with any resin parts. There are loads of bits merchants on Ebay that sell FW parts and at some point you're going to want some of that shiny resin crack - but you can't use standard plastic glue like the Contacta stuff - you're going to need superglue for that.
Nail/Emery Boards
There is nothing worse than assembling your model and priming it, only to find mold lines an unsightly blemishes - so get into the habit of sanding them off prior to priming them. It only takes a moment and improves your finished model immeasurably. Don't be fooled by GW's special sanding boards - your standard manicure nail boards will work just as well at a fraction of the cost.
Scalpel
X-acto is a popular brand in the U.S as you can switch out the blades for a variety of types and they are widely available. Scalpels are handy for scraping mold lines off, cutting away unwanted detail and removing small parts from sprues.
Can of Primer
As you're from the U.S, I'd advise Krylon or Rustoleum primers. Essentially, GW's primer is exactly the same, but in a re-branded can. Obviously I'm from the UK, which has different brands and ingredients, but most car primers also work on plastic models - just spray a piece of sprue first if you've not used the brand first so you don't ruin your model. Similarly, never use a 'filling' primer if you can get a non-filling primer. The filling primers are intended to level out all the little nicks and chips in a car's bodywork - but they'll also fill up all your model's detail.
Clippers
Go to a DIY/Hardware shop and get a pair of sidecutters. GW's look nice, but do exactly the same job as cheaper electricians cutters.
Ok, at this point you've removed you model from the sprue with clippers, cleared up mold lines with sandpaper and scalpel and primed with primer. So you should be good to paint now. Moving onwards:
Spoiler:
A good set of Paintbrushes.
My first set of paintbrushes were GW's Citadel brushes and they were... good. Yup, they lasted me a while and (aside from my lack of skill) performed well enough. GW have since re-vamped their paintbrush line, so I can't attest to the current quality, but I won't dissuade you from GW's brushes - they're a good intro set. However, my ultimate advice would be, if you can afford it, to jump straight into the deep end and get a set of Kolinsky Sable brushes. I personally favour Winsor & Newton, but many U.S painters seem to like Rosemary & Co brushes. Kolinsky brushes are far superior to GW's by virtue of the fact that they are natural Kolinsky Weasel hair and not a synthetic blend. As such they hold their shape much better and retain their point. That said, a word of warning - Kolinsky brushes are much less tolerant of being abused. If you intend to buy Kolinsky Sable brushes, you must ensure you clean your brush regularly and thoroughly - by that I mean swirl it around every so often whilst painting to prevent paint build-up and ALWAYS clean it out after EVERY painting session. If you do that and you don't scrunch the brush up or rive it around, it will last you quite some time. Abuse it and you'll be forking out for another expensive brush in no time at all. You have been warned.
Paint
Not much to say here. Everybody has their favourite, some people mix and match. I tend to use Citadel because it's widely available, there is a good range and because it's a long established range there are many tutorials out there using Citadel paints. works for me, but there are other ranges such as Vallejo, reaper, P3 etc.
Masters Brush Soap
This, along with clean water is all you'll ever need to keep your brushes in good order. Get a pot, and follow the instructions on the rear - simple.
Flow Improver.
This stuff comes under a variety of names, Flo-Aid, Flow Improver, Retarder etc. Essentially all it does is it reduces the surface tension of the water in your paint so that the paint flows across the surface of your model better. This stuff will improve your painting no end. I use Winsor & Newton's Flow Improver, but Liquitex is a popular brand in the U.S. Essentially, you'll want to mix 2ml of Flow Improver and 18ml of Water into a 20ml dropper bottle - or any quantity at a ration of 1:9, Flow Improver to Water.
20ml Dropper Bottle
For the above purpose - you can find them on Ebay or some manufacturers such as Vallejo or Reaper sell empty ones.
Disposable Plastic Pippettes
To help you measure out the Flow Improver so you get the right mix.
That's about it. Obviously this list doesn't take into account Codices, Supplements, Rulebooks and all the gaming paraphernalia, but I hope it proves helpful in getting you up and running as far as the modelling side goes. Really, once you have all this stuff, it's just a case of more primer, more paint, more glue (Once every century if you're careful) and as much plastic crack as you can physically contain within you place of residence.
And finally, a few tips to get you started:
- Google 'Wet Palette' and make yourself one. It'll keep your paint wetter for longer (That almost sounds a touch lewd...) saving you money, time and a lot of rage in future.
- Never paint from the pot. Thin your paints as I described in 'Flow Improver' and your paintjobs will be much smoother. On that note - more, thinner layers is better than fewer thicker layers - don't be afraid to build it up slowly.
- Google is your friend when it comes to tutorials. Failing that, Dakka is a fount of knowledge.