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Hello! Here is a list I am pondering for an upcoming tournament. What do you think? What will I struggle with? Are there better choices I am missing?

Its 6 objectives for mission 1, KP for mission 2, and 4 objectives for mission 3 (objs are set in middle of each table quarter)

Warpflame Host

Hotz, lvl 3, grim, conjuration loci 150

exalted flamer 50
exalted flamer 50
exalted flamer 50
exalted flamer 50

Pink horrors (11) 99
Pink horrors (11) 99
Pink horrors (11) 99
Pink horrors (11) 99
Pink horrors (11) 99

Daemon flock

furies (5) 35

Daemon lords

kairos 300
be'lakor 350
LoC, lvl 3, impossible robes, 2 lesser rewards, 1 greater

1850 on the dot. 23 warp charges before the die roll

I like your other list more. 3 extremely durable soul grinders are more of a threat IMHO than Be'lakor and a few extra warp charges on your herald.

Don't get me wrong -- Be'lakor is a good force multiplier, but he's fairly weak personally.

That T5, 2+ cover, 4 wound model sounds great, but in today's meta it can be dropped painfully easily. I played Be'lakor many times with my Tetrad, and he was always the first daemon prince to die. Being only T5, he's very susceptible to small arms fire. Scat bikes can be a big problem. Sure, you could keep him swooping and shrieking, but then you are paying a premium for that one shriek a turn and wasting his assault abilities.

His assault abilities are fairly lackluster compared to other princes you can build. He has 5 attacks that hit on a 3+ and wound on a 2+. Against a riptide, it will demolish the unit, but against anything fearless it's a lot less effective. Those 5 attacks will hit 2/3 of the time and wound 5/6 of the time for a total of 10/18. To get an accurate assessment of his damage output we would need to use binomial distribution, which gives these chances
0 killed : 2%
1 killed : ~11%
2 killed : ~27%
3 killed : ~34%
4 killed : ~21%
5 killed : ~5%
You could also take a shortcut and estimate that 50/18 will be killed per turn or 2.77 per round of assault. This means to kill 5 marines he will need 2 rounds of assault. For a 350 point model, that's underwhelming. A cheaper Khrone prince with the blade of blood and axe of khorne can deliver 50% more damage! (+1 attack specialist weapon, +d3 Rampage, ID'ing on 6s)

In summary, Be'lakor is good as a force multiplier. Using him to shroud specific units is great. Alone though, he is overcosted.

I agree with the above post. I like the other list better

He needs Belakor if he faces a deathstar so he can tie the deathstar up with an invisible unit. This list is actually very well rounded and Belakor provides a lot in a list like this.

If you got a fair amount of horrors I would always pick an aegis defence line. The can 'go to ground' behind it and get a 2+ coversave with reroll. If your enemy start shooting down horrors first turn, your psychic abilities start to crumble.