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demi battle company
jump pack captain teeth of terra 140
6 jump pack infantry vet sarge with combat shield +eviscerater 122
3 5 man tactical squads lascannon 270
6 Devastater 4 lascannons with armorium cherub 183
4 razorback with tl lascannons tac and devastator 300
Ironclad dread with heavy flamer with drop pod 145
Culexus assassin 140
5 Vanguard vets with drop pod 1 storm shield melta bomb 125
5 vanguard vets with drop pod 1 storm shield melta bomb 125
10 Vanguard vets with jump packs 3 storm sheild all with power weapons 300

i would love to know how you guys would beat my list or what you would improve. Point of interest i HATE bikes
and sorry for the confusion i had made a couple of lists in a row at this point and started mixing my goals

Welcome to Dakka and the Space Marines.

I think chaplains are better bare-bones. I’d save the Teeth for a captain.

If you are putting the eviserator on the sarge, don’t bother with the melta bombs. If putting it on a random guy in the squad, then it can be worth it. Although you probably want to get the sarge his own power weapon in that case. Not sure if the combat shield is worth it. a 6++ invuln is not something that can be relied on. But it’s only 5 points, so whatever... Not sure if the extra bodies in the squad are worth it, trim them if you need points elsewhere.

Tac squads generally want to be on the move, grabbing objectives. You might want special weapons, rather then heavies. Some melta might not be a bad idea (with c-melta sarges to back them up) Plasma/flamers/grav also have their place.

I’d not bother with a vet sarge on the dev squad. Rhino is a bit of an odd choice, except for thematic reasons. They are not going to be moving around much if you place them well.

You can’t just take spare razors in a demi-co. 3 can be for your tac squads, but the 4th doesn’t have a home. Unless you drop the rhino you have listed for the devs, or take jump packs off someone.

Dread should be fine

It seems a shame to run the VV naked. They get their toys at a significant discount, might as well take advantage of that.

Terminators can’t take pods. I’d also recommend adding a chainfist in there.

Assassins can be fun, but can also just evaporate under fire. Should be OK.

Thank you so much i got confused in writing because i kept adjusting the list you have given me a lot to think about
here is the new list (i remembered what i did)
demi battle company
jump pack captain teeth of terra 140
6 jump pack infantry vet sarge with combat shield +eviscerater 122
3 5 man tactical squads lascannon 270
6 Devastater 4 lascannons with armorium cherub 183
4 razorback with tl lascannons tac and devastator 300
Ironclad dread with heavy flamer with drop pod 145
Culexus assassin 140
5 Vanguard vets with drop pod 1 storm shield melta bomb 125
5 vanguard vets with drop pod 1 storm shield melta bomb 125
10 Vanguard vets with jump packs 3 storm sheild all with power weapons 300
the tacs/ devastators will objective sit and shoot with las (flyers or tanks pending on priority the rest will adapt to the others army and do what needs to be done

Holy moses, that's a lot of lascannons!!!

Drop the combat shield. Providing 1/6 extra survivability for one marine in some (already bad) contexts isn't worth a 1/4 of another marine.

For God's sake, drop the armorium cherub and vet sarge.

I'm thinking that for the points you're paying for those razorbacks, you can practically make it a battle company! So the list isn't optimized, but that doesn't mean it can't be effective and fun.

Now is this Gladius or Fist of Medusa? Because if I were fielding this army, I might want to spread out my lascannons out so that I can avoid cover for most of my targets. But Fist of Medusa likes to keep everyone close.

I feel like the terminators vanguard, and dreadnought are too few to matter in a list t the 1850 level. They're few enough that a gunline list can take them out in one turn, while if your opponent has an assault list, he's licking their chops at the targets you're bringing to him!

What models are you working with? If you have everything you need for a battle company, I'd go for that with an armored task force.

If you have terminators and vanguard vets leading the charge, you need more assaulting units right behind them, and the Gladius/Fist of Medusa is probably not right for you.