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#1 can adeptus sororitas be part of a chapter? i've seen people include them before but i'm not really sure.

#2 can the adeptus mechanicus be part of a chapter? If so how would you incorporate them to a chapter?

#3 how big is the fleet for a fleet base chapter?

#4 is it heretical to think the emperor is just a super human that loves mankind

1. Short answer - No.
Long answer - Feth no. The people doing that have no idea what they're doing.

2. Only Techmarines, although a chapter could have close ties to the Mechanicus and work with them a lot.

3. About 2-3 Battle Barges, a few Strike Cruisers, and lots of Rapid Response Craft (I think that's what they're called)

4. That's what Space Marines in general think.

Agreed with the above except for (3).

2-3 battle barges and about twice that number of strike cruisers is about right for a normal chapter, but a specifically Fleet Based chapter tends to have a higher number of warships - the estimates for the Carcharodons fleet, for example, has about double the normal number of strike cruisers (essentially every company has one as its 'home base') plus a fleet based chapter often has one oversized vessel (normally just a big battle barge - few chapters have anything like the Phalanx, Raptorus Rex, or The Rock) like the Black Templar's Eternal Crusader.

The Adepta Sororitas and Astartes really, really don't get along that well for a variety of reasons which can mostly be boiled down to the Astartes being psychopathic gene-enhanced feral savages who publicly deny the Emperor's Godhood but for some reason aren't purged like the heretics they are (from the Sororitas' point of view) and the Sororitas being the military arm of a corrupt, repressive organisation dedicated to destroying the Imperial Truth that the Emperor fought for and the whole Great Crusade was dedicated to (from the Astartes point of view).

On 1# and 2#. No fluff wise they are not part of a Space Marine chapter. Though, it is possible to ally Sororitas and AdMech into an army.

On 3#. It kind of varies per fleet Chapter.

On 4#. Would say yes and no. Lots of chapters do think that, and lots of chapters do not.

In regards of the fleet would the order be
1 battle barge
4-6 battle ships
9-12 strike cruisers

A fleet-based Chapter might also find a number of ordinary unarmed freighters useful, depending on how often they have a chance to resupply.

In regards of the fleet would the order be
1 battle barge
4-6 battle ships
9-12 strike cruisers

No Rapid Strike Vessels? Given that Astartes often send out small (squad-scale) strike forces, individual vessels like the Gladius - frigates & destroyers - are quite useful. Not to mention their value as escort craft in a major fleet engagement.

A solitary battle barge as flagship is fair enough - a battle barge normally carries ~ 3 companies, but in this case I would expect it to carry the first company plus 'chapter support' elements - the armoury, librarius, reclusiam and apothecarion - the heads of which the Chapter Master would expect to be 'on hand' to confer with, rather than another couple of battle companies.

A strike cruiser for each other company makes sense, allowing them to operate independently, and one or two 'fleet asset' cruisers to support fleet actions without risking a line company in the process (or for a company to transfer onto if their cruiser gets shot up badly in a planetary assault) are also a sensible precaution.


The presence of so many battleships is an interesting one, though. Technically the Astartes aren't supposed to have ships designed purely for fleet combat (although many do, and fleet based chapters unsurprisingly ignore that rule more readily than most), but having 1-2 squadrons of the heaviest ships of the line in the Imperium is a bloody impressive achievement - that's more battleships than are generally present in a Sector Battlefleet of the Imperial Navy.

What's the reasoning behind so many heavies, especially given the lack of an associated escort screen?

A fleet-based Chapter might also find a number of ordinary unarmed freighters useful, depending on how often they have a chance to resupply.

There would definitely be some freighters, tankers and possibly Mechanicus Forge Ships assigned to the chapter - but Astartes being Astartes I'd expect them to be armed. 'Armed Freighters' still aren't a match for a proper destroyer, but they're still a far better idea to take into a warzone (and to perform shuttle runs between a warzone and the nearest Forge World) than the normal stuff a Chartist Captain might expect to command.

So is it more accurate to have less battleships Or is it still possible tp have 4-6 i'm honestly going off of other options, because i only know
A limited amount of knowledge of warhammer.that said now know i need alot frigates and destroyers to gelp my fleet gat supplies and support. What I'm still un sure of is the number of cruisers, battleships and various other ships i need.what i want is a fleet that isn't bound to just deployment on various worlds, i do want to deploy my troops by any means but i also want to ensure that my fleets aren't just sitting duck who just put up a skirmish, i want them to be like deadly Canadian geese who fight until they win.on that note i question if i can have my battle barge modified by the mechanicus
On some forge world lile the eternal crusader or the rock
Either way i'm really grateful for how much this community has helped me with 40k knowledge.


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So is it more accurate to have less battleships Or is it still possible tp have 4-6? i'm honestly going off of other options, because i only know
A limited amount of knowledge of warhammer.that said now know i need alot frigates and destroyers to help my fleet get supplies and support. What I'm still un sure of is the number of cruisers, battleships and various other ships i need.what i want is a fleet that isn't bound to just deployment on various worlds, i do want to deploy my troops by any means but i also want to ensure that my fleets aren't just sitting duck who just put up a skirmish, i want them to be like deadly Canadian geese who fight until they win.on that note i question if i can have my battle barge modified by the mechanicus
On some forge world lile the eternal crusader or the rock
Either way i'm really grateful for how much this community has helped me with 40k knowledge.


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