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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.
My immediate worry was that my wife and daughter are currently visiting my mother-in-law just outside Tokyo.
Then I read that this bloke attacked disabled people in a care home. I was relieved and guilty for feeling relieved and doubly guilty for thinking that this explains how one guy with a knife managed to murder so many people.
What has the world come to? People seem to want to be their own little Hitler and get rid of examples of the kinds of people of whom they disapprove. Should we invite Judge Death to come and sort us all out?
My immediate worry was that my wife and daughter are currently visiting my mother-in-law just outside Tokyo.
Then I read that this bloke attacked disabled people in a care home. I was relieved and guilty for feeling relieved and doubly guilty for thinking that this explains how one guy with a knife managed to murder so many people.
What has the world come to? People seem to want to be their own little Hitler and get rid of examples of the kinds of people of whom they disapprove. Should we invite Judge Death to come and sort us all out?
Family first.
Id not feel too bad
Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all.
I won't go as far as familial amorality but it is perfectly reasonable to be relieved that one's family is fine while also being disgusted by the attack.
Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
Hasn't the world always been this way? It's just there's more people in it now and the news does a better job of reporting globally.
Taking a long term view and looking at total murder and total violent crime, the world is less violent now than ever before.
However, just looking at the frequency of high profile mass killings against random targets, there's certainly been a lot in the last month, and a lot this year so far.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
Hasn't the world always been this way? It's just there's more people in it now and the news does a better job of reporting globally.
Taking a long term view and looking at total murder and total violent crime, the world is less violent now than ever before.
However, just looking at the frequency of high profile mass killings against random targets, there's certainly been a lot in the last month, and a lot this year so far.
Have you actually done a study and counted them, or are you just guessing based off news reporting?
Hasn't the world always been this way? It's just there's more people in it now and the news does a better job of reporting globally.
Taking a long term view and looking at total murder and total violent crime, the world is less violent now than ever before.
However, just looking at the frequency of high profile mass killings against random targets, there's certainly been a lot in the last month, and a lot this year so far.
Have you actually done a study and counted them, or are you just guessing based off news reporting?
AllSeeingSkink wrote: Have you actually done a study and counted them, or are you just guessing based off news reporting?
What? Are you actually disputing there's been a higher than normal number of mass killings in the past month or so?
I mean, there's a case to be made to put this cluster of killings in context, both against total killings, and against a broader period of history, but to suggest there might not actually have been a lot of killings lately seems... not that useful a line of though.
“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”
Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something.
cincydooley wrote:The data is all out there, and very clear.
Well then it shouldn't be difficult for you to provide a link. I couldn't find any data on global rates of mass murders. The only link I found was from the USA which gave the 1990's as being the worst decade, with the 00's being behind both the 80's and 90's, the site didn't have complete data from the 2010's and overall I didn't really trust the data, I'm not sure what how they defined mass murder to get their numbers.
I'm sure how you define "mass murder" will change the statistics considerably.
Overall global murder rates seem to have been falling over long periods of time, but data is scarce and easy to misinterpret.
sebster wrote:
AllSeeingSkink wrote: Have you actually done a study and counted them, or are you just guessing based off news reporting?
What? Are you actually disputing there's been a higher than normal number of mass killings in the past month or so?
I mean, there's a case to be made to put this cluster of killings in context, both against total killings, and against a broader period of history, but to suggest there might not actually have been a lot of killings lately seems... not that useful a line of though.
I'm disputing your methodology for coming to your conclusion. I don't keep a tally of mass killings, so I have no idea how many there have been.
The media is biased in reporting, I'm sure there's a lot of mass murders that only get passing attention by global news reporting.
I will agree that lately mass killers seem to have had a decent amount of success in recent times (with the Nice attack taking out 84 people, Orlando taking out 53, Tokyo taking out 19) but as far as the actual frequency of attacks globally, I have no idea and I think any opinion that hasn't looked at actual data is probably going to be biased by which page of the newspaper attacks are reported and how much air time they're given.
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JSF wrote:... this is really quite an audacious move by GW, throwing out any pretext that this is a game and that its customers exist to do anything other than buy their overpriced products for the sake of it. The naked arrogance, greed and contempt for their audience is shocking.
More info has come to light, some idiot doctor said he was improving :(
A Sagamihara city official said later Uematsu had been involuntarily committed to hospital on Feb 19 for fear he would harm others.
He had come to authorities’ attention after saying he was willing to kill severely disabled people, but was discharged on March 2 after a doctor deemed his condition had improved, the official said.
SAGAMIHARA —
Shock and bewilderment gripped neighbors of a center for mentally disabled people in Sagamihara, Kanagawa Prefecture, on Tuesday after a man stabbed and killed 19 residents in their sleep and wounded dozens more in Japan’s worst mass killing in decades.
“This kind of thing doesn’t happen in Japan. It’s unthinkable it happened so close to me,” said Masae Mizoguchi, a 78-year-old retiree who lives up the hill from the Tsukui Yamayuri En (Tsukui Lily Garden) facility.
Residents of the town woke in horror on Tuesday to learn that a man had broken into the disabled facility overnight and stabbed residents as they slept.
“These people were severely disabled, and they were asleep. That’s why he was able to kill so many,” Mizoguchi said.
Japan has largely been spared the mass killings that have become all too common elsewhere in the world, partly due to its strict gun-control laws.
“This is a peaceful, quiet town, so I never thought such an incident would happen here,” said another neighbor, Oshikazu Shimo, one of many Sagamihara residents who gathered nearby as the buzz of cicadas was heard in the humid summer air.
Police have arrested Satoshi Uematsu, 26, a former employee at the facility. A Sagamihara city official said later Uematsu had been involuntarily committed to hospital on Feb 19 for fear he would harm others.
He had come to authorities’ attention after saying he was willing to kill severely disabled people, but was discharged on March 2 after a doctor deemed his condition had improved, the official said.
In February, Uematsu tried to hand deliver a letter he wrote to the speaker of the Diet’s lower house, demanding all disabled people be put to death through “a world that allows for mercy killing,” Kyodo news agency and TBS TV reported. Uematsu boasted in the letter that he had the ability to kill 470 disabled people in what he called was “a revolution,” and outlined an attack on two facilities, after which he said he would turn himself in. He also asked he be judged innocent on grounds of insanity, be given 500 million yen in aid and plastic surgery so he could lead a normal life afterward.
The letter was reprinted by Kyodo after the attack.
“My reasoning is that I may be able to revitalize the world economy and I thought it may be possible to prevent World War III,” the rambling letter says.
The letter, which the Tokyo police got, included Uematsu’s name, address and telephone number, and reports of his threats were relayed to local police where Uematsu lived, Kyodo said.
Japan’s worst previous mass killing was in 2008, when a man drove a truck into a crowd and began stabbing people in Tokyo’s popular electronics and “anime” district of Akihabara, killing seven people. In 2001, a knife-wielding man killed eight students in an elementary school in Ikeda in Osaka Prefecture.
The Sagamihara facility is located in a valley nestled between mountains, at the end of a street of modest houses interspersed with persimmon orchards and vegetable gardens.
In a nearby amusement park, the Ferris wheel and other rides were operating normally.
“That kind of person can’t defend themselves. That’s why so many died,” taxi driver Susumu Fujimura said of the victims.
“It makes you weep to think of somebody just murdering them. He said ‘we should get rid of disabled people’ but he’s the worthless one,” Fujimura said.
Yeah, I think he probably manipulated the doctors into believing that he was improving. Also, the little gak was grinning like a Cheshire cat as they carted him away in a police van. He is very definitely a tile short.
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