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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/26 23:49:11
Subject: (bias) Age of Sigmar Review
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Pewling Menial
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http://www.ageofsigmarking.com/age-of-sigmar-review/
Hey dudes, I've created a very bias review/overview on the Age of Sigmar. It's designed to attract new players to the game because I want others to experience what is fast becoming an amazing game.
Feedback is appreciated, cheers!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/27 02:48:25
Subject: Re:(bias) Age of Sigmar Review
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Nice review sir, agree with everything but not sure I would call no points a mistake. They did mean to do it that way, adding points as the handbook says, just another way to play. The no points is really nice for narrative games which im really starting to love. Did the bash your balls in hardcore scene for many many years, and this is breath of fresh air.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/28 00:18:00
Subject: (bias) Age of Sigmar Review
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Seriously. A magnificently written article. From the perspective of someone who just bought his first intro army, yet to try his first battle, this is a treat to read.
It includes a light introduction to the fluff and then progresses to explain the basics of the game. Going from there tou dive into the game mechanics in an ELI5 kinda way which is great, since i havent gotten any of the rulebooks yet.
Your enthousiasm really rubs off and you got me hyped for my first game and sold the game to me... how much did G-dub pay you m8? Cause youre worth every penny
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/28 08:58:57
Subject: (bias) Age of Sigmar Review
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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Cracking article, it's great to see more people becoming enthused about AoS and you really do cover all the bases that people might be concerned about (pricing, complexity of the game/lore, accessibility of rules material) so hopefully a few folks who are 'on the fence' about AoS will be tipped over the edge by this. Nicely set out and presented, too, and I'll be keeping an eye on the site to see what you come up with next!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/28 09:50:24
Subject: Re:(bias) Age of Sigmar Review
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Pewling Menial
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Infinite thanks to all of you, really genuinely appreciate it! I would like to know what kinda stuff you guys would like to see on the site, what kinda thing do you think would draw people back?
I kinda started a Warscrolls page but it's a tonne of work and I'm not sure people would actually use it. Input and feedback is hugely appreciated!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/28 10:17:50
Subject: (bias) Age of Sigmar Review
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Is 'Eavy Metal Calling?
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To be honest, with the Warscrolls being only a click away from the unit page on GW's own site, that section doesn't seem like it'd be worth the effort. It'd be a load of work, time probably better spent on more content. Some ideas of stuff you could do, though:
- Tactics articles, anything from big overviews of how an army plays to really in depth analysis of a warscroll or combo. You could even do 'head to head' style setups like they used to have in White Dwarf; two units, a brief look at each, then 3 'rounds' of fighting to determine the winner, one 1v1, one unit vs unit and one with the two units as part of a small army. Lends a bit of context to the discussion of the units.
- Realm/Faction/unit lore summaries, again ranging from overviews to the nitty gritty stuff.
- 'Buyer's Guides', for example 'how to start Seraphon for £100' or things like that, talk through suggested purchases, ways to kitbash/convert to get the most bang for your buck or build a collection around a certain list or Battalion ect. This could be a nice ongoing thing and be handy for people looking to stick to a budget or get started.
- Painting articles/tutorials, either by yourself or 'guest posts from others. Simple beginner ones might be best since you'you seem to be setting this up as something of an introduction to Age of Sigmar, but you could always do some more advanced stuff if you feel up to it.
- Battle reports! Everyone loves battle reports, especially if they're featuring painted armies and terrain.
Hope that gives you some idea, looking forward to seeing what you come up with!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/28 15:47:01
Subject: Re:(bias) Age of Sigmar Review
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Pewling Menial
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Thanks Paradigm, appreciate your input big time. I think I will be gearing more towards the tactical side because I suck pretty bad at the modelling and painting! I want it to be a sort of library for tactics on the game that people can refer to.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/28 17:41:57
Subject: (bias) Age of Sigmar Review
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Fixture of Dakka
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Finally got to read it. Not sure why it took me so long. Great article. Excellently done. I loved it. The only criticism I can see with this article is "points only make the game good" and the rest is WWWWAAAAAAAA AoS is no good if you don't play with points. So to me I thought it was going to be a whiney article. So glad I am not and eating crow. You only concentrate on one aspect of game play, which to you excitement and enthusiasm I am surprised you neglected the other two aspects of Age of Sigmar. I can almost feel how much you love AoS. Sad thing is, you are only saying you can only play AoS one way. Since this article is about your personal opinion, it would have been nice to see if you were proven right in not starting AoS because of the no points or be proven wrong how great AoS can still be without paying points. (hey there is your other article.  ) So I say to you, like you have challenged us to play and try AoS, I am challenging you to play AoS the other 2 ways as well and give your opinions on that as well. After all, a lot of people love AoS because of the no points thing and to them you are giving them a big middle finger to them by saying AoS can only be played with points. As to what to make for your site, like someone said, I wouldn't bother with battle scrolls or what not, since they are all on the GW site. So do painting articles. Do conversion articles. How about since this is your opinion, have articles on why you play the army you have. Why are you collecting. What you think is cool and great. I really strongly consider having 2 more articles on playing AoS without points and the story mode (sorry keep forgetting what they call it.) This way you have fleshed out what Age of Sigmar is really about and can say what is great about AoS and what is not so great about AoS.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2016/07/28 17:42:20
Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/28 18:12:11
Subject: Re:(bias) Age of Sigmar Review
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Pewling Menial
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Thanks for the constructive criticism, it's very helpful. I will be totally open and admit I've jumped on the "There's no points, it's sh*t" bandwagon. I've always been fairly competitively minded when it comes to games and love balance. I will definitely give it a try though and I also want to explore the narrative side of the game, seems really cool I just haven't gotten there yet.
I think the site will gravitate towards tactical aspects of the game because I am a poor painter and modeller! The tactics and stuff is my favourite part of Warhammer, I feel even if you are rolling like gak you can win if you play your cards properly.
I will be doing product reviews and tactical insights on specific units which highlight synergies.
Thanks again for your input, it's genuinely a big help.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/28 20:06:33
Subject: Re:(bias) Age of Sigmar Review
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Krazy Grot Kutta Driva
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constructive criticism but I'm worried this might come across as being grumpy or mean, but try to take it lightly!
- You need a disclaimer on your site. GW used to have one on their webpage (on a FAQ page or something) that they allowed you to copy paste and use on fan sites. It says something like:
'This website is not endorsed by GW, warhammer blood bowl 40k yadda yadda are all trades marks of GW Etc etc. '
Its quite lengthy, but worth sticking up, might stop any bother at a later date.
- GW used to be a bit funny about linking things on personal sites and back to their website (your warscrolls part of the page) (there is a correct internet term for this but I cant think of it off the top of my head!) I'm not 100% on their stance now, but as others have said, you dont really need that bit, plus it will save you a ton of work having to keep the links updated, and fixed. In the same vein, hotlinking to GW pictures is a big no no (they used to class it as bandwidth theft). Get your own pictures up to save trouble in the long run and dont hotlink to GWs pictures at all.
-Not keen on the site name its self, I read it as 'age of sig marking'. It goes back to blog writing, you need a name that people can remember easily, but doesn't make up new words/sentences when its made as the address. For example website 'speed of art' address was 'Speedofart.com'. Though its an extreme case (and rather funny), this kind of thing is a pet peeve, and you might find this to be an issue later on down the line.
-I like the nice clean design (I have ad blocker on, but turned it off to test your page, I'm just that nice!) its nice to see a page not filled with adverts and flashing flash stuff. ( BolS and spiky bits are cess pits because of that!) Keep pictures and videos to a minimum size so not to kill of mobile viewers!
Lastly I like to see terrain and painting articles the most. Painting guides will bring more traffic to your site, and people will stay for other things too then! I dont tend to search for battle reports online (I tend to search for them on youtube) but will stay to read them on sites that have interesting painting or terrain articles. YMMV though, you might not enjoy writing that side of the hobby!
Good luck with your site!
EDIT: After posting, I pretty much right away noticed you have the disclaimer on the bottom bar! Sorry!
EDIT 2: I dont English well after 6pm! Fixed some mistakes!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/28 20:15:03
Subject: Re:(bias) Age of Sigmar Review
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Pewling Menial
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Thanks Rex, this is really valuable info and I was actually looking for this kind of thing. I thought I might get away with giving credit to GW by linking to the images but I did think it might be too good to be true.
I only really realised the site name looked weird after I bought the domain but oh well, I'm not too fussed.
The images are a real pain though, I'm going to have to contact people with well painted models and try collect some pictures I think.
Edit: How does Natfka and Bell of lost souls get away with this kind of thing? I see them use GW pictures a lot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/07/28 20:31:00
Subject: (bias) Age of Sigmar Review
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Krazy Grot Kutta Driva
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I might be totally wrong about the pictures, they may have changed their stance. A lot of my information stored in my head, comes from many many years ago, well before the internet was the beast it is today! Maybe worth checking into!
Worst case, use photos of your own models (or friends! )
I know for one, I prefer to see someones own minis and terrain, I see enough of GW stuff when ordering stuff!
If you alreayd brought the name then oh well! It might not be an issue, and its mostly from my days of researching blog names (I spent weeks researching blog naming with the intention of monetising a horror blog! I did a lot of work, but then didn't have the time to continue it!)
Anyway, worth rechecking my knowledge, like I said, I'm a bit out of date with GWs internet laws as I've not had an interest in posting my own warhammer stuff, other than forums, for many years now.
Natfka and Bell of lost souls probably get away with it because they are huge, and its free advertising for gw. But dont copy them- they are the wretched hive of scum and villainy !
Sorry for giving you more work than help, all the best!
Ps you could contact GW and ask what they think about the picture linking- but be warned, if you do and you don't like their answer, they could come down heavy if they know you have been informed by them but ignore their advice! Maybe ignorance is bliss!
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