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Hey whats up all i was gunna be playing in a tourny with a couple friends over a months span were doing an escalation tournament starting at 500 going up to 1000, 1500 1850 and then a apoc game. I have two eldar lists right now and im trying to decide between the two lists, one of the rules of the tourny is that 500 points no changes until the next tier i can do upgrades and switch warlord and such but our next level lists must consist of the list before, so my 500 needs to be solid for all tiers

Here's what i got thus far:
Eldar 500pts

Jain Zar 200
11 Guardians w/ Warlock and Starcannon 154
5 Scorpions 85
3 Wind riders w/ 1 Scatters 61

Jain gunna start with guardians who cast shroud turn 1 and then run into squad of scorpions because im afraid of her getting ap2'd


Second List: Eldar 496pts

Farseer w/ spear 105
10 Guardians /w Warlock and Scatterlaser 140
5 Scorpions /w Ex /w Claw 125
5 Banshees 65
3 windriders w/ 1 scatter 61


imma be facing Orks, Space Marines, Grey Knights, Necrons. I know from previous exp with this pricks: Marines are bringing skyhammer annihilations (the only one im really worried about) Knights bringing some formation with Dreadknight (really dont wanna burn) 5 termies and some psyker. Ork not sure, and Nercons are wild card new player. I was worried about not having enough str/ap2 against vehicles and the knights but my SM friend told me probably no one is bringing vehicles so i switched from list 2 and made list 1 cuz i love jain zar and i wanted to have some fun with her and i havent fielded her since i gave her a full paint job lolz but thats not a good reason, i got 20 bucks on the line, any suggestions would be great!

Jain needs a delivery system and at 500 points, I just don't see her getting to the h2h without getting shot up first. Worse, Eldar don't *have* a good h2h unit delivery system (no assault transports), unless they pair up with Dark Eldar (in higher points games) and *not* if your group adopts GWs FAQs (Sharing Rides nerf). You've stated you love her, but she is really hampered by these mechanisms of the game and should be left out. I think list #2 will serve you better.

Regarding list, #2:
a. Can you proxy your banshees as more scorpions? Little groups of 5 don't last. Having them one big crew of 10 is better, or maybe 8 as you need points for:
b. See if you can find the 20 points more for all ScatLas bikes. Their jsj protects that great gun, better than having it on the guardians' unit.

For the games under 750, are you guys going with 4x4' tables? I'd recommend that.

Ya the no eldar assault vehicles is kinda lame but i guess its part of the balancing act. ya ill get shot up a bit but thats why i was gunna have her run into the scorpions to hopefully get a 2+ cover save from ruins or from 5+ cover (cant remember if stealth is single model ability that grants it to the whole squad like shrouded, at work) but ya for list 2 i was thinking of swapping out the banshees i mean they do me go against the marines but for the other armies not so much i might replace them for another squad of bikers base and add another laser to the other bike squad. which would be i believe 492 and then maybe replace the scatter in the guadian to go up to a starcannon for that ap2 which is nice in the guardian squad cause its more protected by wounds than the bikers can be, might do that dont have codex so i cant see how many scorpions i could get instead of banshees if i go that route. not sure on table size yet i think were just gunna do half of standard table (which i dont remember the specs) so we can do 2 games at once

warlock conclave (2) skyrunner or farseer on foot, , scatter bikes x2 and a gun wk

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