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2016/08/02 19:25:59
Subject: Rate 40k's factions in terms of strength on the tabletop
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Fresh-Faced New User
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As the title says. Put 40k's armies in order in terms of how powerful they are on the tabletop when fielding the most powerful combination of units available to them - no allies. And maybe a description of the army composition and why.
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2016/08/02 19:32:10
Subject: Rate 40k's factions in terms of strength on the tabletop
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer
Byron Bay, Australia
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This is going to end in tears.
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2016/08/02 19:51:29
Subject: Rate 40k's factions in terms of strength on the tabletop
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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Space Marines are the most powerful. Anyone who disagrees is wrong
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2016/08/02 19:52:06
Subject: Rate 40k's factions in terms of strength on the tabletop
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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SGTPozy wrote:Space Marines are the most powerful. Anyone who disagrees is wrong
Seeing as it's Eldar, you're the one that's wrong.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
 jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
 vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
 MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
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2016/08/02 19:59:16
Subject: Rate 40k's factions in terms of strength on the tabletop
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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They're close but Space Marines are still more powerful
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2016/08/02 20:01:25
Subject: Rate 40k's factions in terms of strength on the tabletop
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Fixture of Dakka
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SGTPozy wrote:
They're close but Space Marines are still more powerful
No they aren't. Space Marines need Gladius therefore big enough points. Eldar can bring cheese at all levels.
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tremere47-fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate, leads to triple riptide spam |
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2016/08/02 20:18:54
Subject: Rate 40k's factions in terms of strength on the tabletop
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Auspicious Aspiring Champion of Chaos
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Sometimes this forum feels like a really lame version of Groundhog Day.
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 2000 Khorne Bloodbound (Skullfiend Tribe- Aqshy)
 1000 Tzeentch Arcanites (Pyrofane Cult - Hysh) in progress
 2000 Slaves to Darkness (Ravagers)
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2016/08/02 20:38:37
Subject: Rate 40k's factions in terms of strength on the tabletop
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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We literally just had a thread about this...
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2016/08/02 20:38:47
Subject: Rate 40k's factions in terms of strength on the tabletop
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Imperial Guard Landspeeder Pilot
On moon miranda.
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Well, to actually make an on topic post, here's my subjective ranking.
Lets call this "1" tier. Armies that clearly are absurdly powerful, flexible, and consistent.
Eldar
Space Marines
Lets call the next "2" tier, armies that can match the 1 tier armies in most ways, and that lower tier armies wont stand any better chance against than 1st tier, but may have more variability or less flexibility or have specific and rare but powerful hardcounters.
Necrons
Tau
Daemons
Knights (when allowed to play as a full, unrestricted army)
Next are the "3's", just a twitch below the 2's with their best lists.
Dark Angels
Space Wolves
KDK
Lets call the next "4" class, armies that are clearly inferior to the above, but arent totally helpless with their absolute best lists.
Tyranids
Skitarii
AdMech
Orks
Grey Knights
Now "5" class. These armies can play with the 4's and kinda the 3's, but are going to get curbstomped by the 1/2 tiers.
Dark Eldar
Imperial Guard
Blood Angels
Chaos Space Marines
Sisters
Now tier "6", these armies are not entirely complete and without allies are just totally helpless
Harlequins
Tempestus Scions
Inquisition
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IRON WITHIN, IRON WITHOUT.
New Heavy Gear Log! Also...Grey Knights!
The correct pronunciation is Imperial Guard and Stormtroopers, "Astra Militarum" and "Tempestus Scions" are something you'll find at Hogwarts. |
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2016/08/02 20:40:45
Subject: Rate 40k's factions in terms of strength on the tabletop
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Shas'ui with Bonding Knife
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pm713 wrote:SGTPozy wrote:
They're close but Space Marines are still more powerful
No they aren't. Space Marines need Gladius therefore big enough points. Eldar can bring cheese at all levels.
Can they bring the cheese at 1 point games? No? Didn't think so! Your point is incorrect good sir/madam/whatever you identify as!
Automatically Appended Next Post: "Lets call this "1" tier. Armies that clearly are absurdly powerful, flexible, and consistent.
Eldar
Space Marines "
Good boy/girl/creature. You understand
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2016/08/02 20:48:02
Subject: Rate 40k's factions in terms of strength on the tabletop
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Xeno-Hating Inquisitorial Excruciator
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SGTPozy wrote:pm713 wrote:SGTPozy wrote:
They're close but Space Marines are still more powerful
No they aren't. Space Marines need Gladius therefore big enough points. Eldar can bring cheese at all levels.
Can they bring the cheese at 1 point games? No? Didn't think so! Your point is incorrect good sir/madam/whatever you identify as!
I can't believe you just assumed that they identify as something. Gosh darn check your privilege, it's 2016.
But he does have a point. Eldar can bring the cheese at cheap levels akin to plasic wrapped square cheese. SM need to be at around big block of cheddar range to be really effective.
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2016/08/02 22:12:25
Subject: Rate 40k's factions in terms of strength on the tabletop
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Fresh-Faced New User
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 Vaktathi wrote:Well, to actually make an on topic post, here's my subjective ranking.
Lets call this "1" tier. Armies that clearly are absurdly powerful, flexible, and consistent.
Eldar
Space Marines
Lets call the next "2" tier, armies that can match the 1 tier armies in most ways, and that lower tier armies wont stand any better chance against than 1st tier, but may have more variability or less flexibility or have specific and rare but powerful hardcounters.
Necrons
Tau
Daemons
Knights (when allowed to play as a full, unrestricted army)
Next are the "3's", just a twitch below the 2's with their best lists.
Dark Angels
Space Wolves
KDK
Lets call the next "4" class, armies that are clearly inferior to the above, but arent totally helpless with their absolute best lists.
Tyranids
Skitarii
AdMech
Orks
Grey Knights
Now "5" class. These armies can play with the 4's and kinda the 3's, but are going to get curbstomped by the 1/2 tiers.
Dark Eldar
Imperial Guard
Blood Angels
Chaos Space Marines
Sisters
Now tier "6", these armies are not entirely complete and without allies are just totally helpless
Harlequins
Tempestus Scions
Inquisition
Nice to see both of the armies I play are gonna get curbstomped.
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2016/08/03 04:51:25
Subject: Rate 40k's factions in terms of strength on the tabletop
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Niffenator wrote: Vaktathi wrote:Well, to actually make an on topic post, here's my subjective ranking.
Lets call this "1" tier. Armies that clearly are absurdly powerful, flexible, and consistent.
Eldar
Space Marines
Lets call the next "2" tier, armies that can match the 1 tier armies in most ways, and that lower tier armies wont stand any better chance against than 1st tier, but may have more variability or less flexibility or have specific and rare but powerful hardcounters.
Necrons
Tau
Daemons
Knights (when allowed to play as a full, unrestricted army)
Next are the "3's", just a twitch below the 2's with their best lists.
Dark Angels
Space Wolves
KDK
Lets call the next "4" class, armies that are clearly inferior to the above, but arent totally helpless with their absolute best lists.
Tyranids
Skitarii
AdMech
Orks
Grey Knights
Now "5" class. These armies can play with the 4's and kinda the 3's, but are going to get curbstomped by the 1/2 tiers.
Dark Eldar
Imperial Guard
Blood Angels
Chaos Space Marines
Sisters
Now tier "6", these armies are not entirely complete and without allies are just totally helpless
Harlequins
Tempestus Scions
Inquisition
Nice to see both of the armies I play are gonna get curbstomped.
I'd put CSM in Tier 6, if they didn't have the Hellturkey and Ahriman shenanigans. Surely CSM now qualifies as a non-army.
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2016/08/03 05:05:32
Subject: Rate 40k's factions in terms of strength on the tabletop
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Vaktathi wrote:Well, to actually make an on topic post, here's my subjective ranking.
Lets call this "1" tier. Armies that clearly are absurdly powerful, flexible, and consistent.
Eldar
Space Marines
Lets call the next "2" tier, armies that can match the 1 tier armies in most ways, and that lower tier armies wont stand any better chance against than 1st tier, but may have more variability or less flexibility or have specific and rare but powerful hardcounters.
Necrons
Tau
Daemons
Knights (when allowed to play as a full, unrestricted army)
Next are the "3's", just a twitch below the 2's with their best lists.
Dark Angels
Space Wolves
KDK
Lets call the next "4" class, armies that are clearly inferior to the above, but arent totally helpless with their absolute best lists.
Tyranids
Skitarii
AdMech
Orks
Grey Knights
Now "5" class. These armies can play with the 4's and kinda the 3's, but are going to get curbstomped by the 1/2 tiers.
Dark Eldar
Imperial Guard
Blood Angels
Chaos Space Marines
Sisters
Now tier "6", these armies are not entirely complete and without allies are just totally helpless
Harlequins
Tempestus Scions
Inquisition
Eh, I would put Harlequins in 5. They might not be complete, but with a good list you can do pretty well. They are quite restricted, but so are most low tier codex's.
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