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Hello,
I am a fairly new player and have decided to go with Chaos. A buddy of mine, who has played for a while, told me that I cannot deep strike my vehicles. The thread on this topic was old, and the comment-sentry told me to just make a new thread. Can I deepstrike my Chaos Land Raider?

Land Raiders don't have the Deepstrike special rule so they can't do it usually and I'm not aware of any other way of giving them the rule. Chaos Terminators are able to Deepstrike due to the special rule that comes with their armour and they are able to take a Land Raider as a dedicated transport but the Deepstrike special rule doesn't confer onto the vehicle.

Only models that have the Deep Strike rule can arrive by deep strike. Chaos Land Raiders do not come with that rule as standard, so you would need some specific way of granting the LR the rule.

Embarking a unit with the DS rule would not be enough - rules are not shared between transport and occupants unless specifically stated (see th Infiltrate or Scout rules for examples of that).

I'm not aware of any method to allow it, but there may be something from Forgeworld that I don't know of.

Thx,
The other thread I found was discussing 'Assault Vehicle' and seemed to indicate that granted DS ability to vehicles (though admittedly in my zeal I may have misread).

The 'Assault Vehicle' rule can be found on page 88 or 157 of the main rulebook.

Blood Angels had the ability to deepstrike Land Raiders in the last codex.

You can outflank the Land Raider with Maelstrom Raider upgrade

 Intercessor wrote:
You can outflank the Land Raider with Maelstrom Raider upgrade

For the sake of the OP being a new player: this upgrade can be found in Imperial Amour 13 from Forgeworld.


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Evangelos wrote:
Thx,
The other thread I found was discussing 'Assault Vehicle' and seemed to indicate that granted DS ability to vehicles (though admittedly in my zeal I may have misread).

Out of curiosity, are you able to provide a link to this thread?

I'm guessing that other thread referred to was something to do with the Deathwing Assault rule and whether or not the Land Raiders qualified for Deepstriking because of it. Think I remember reading something like that a while back.

Depending on the age of the thread: there was an argument about whether Assault Vehicle rules somehow supercedes the deep strike assault restrictions. That thread was involved around Blood Angels deep striking land raiders.

Chaos Land Raiders cannot deep strike.

The Assault Vehicle rule does not allow you to Deep Strike.

You cannot assault out of Deep Strike.

You cannot assault out of a vehicle that doesn't have the Assault Vehicle Rule, or the open topped rule.

Note*: There are special formations and units that allow you to do some of these things. Unfortunately Chaos does not have any of them. And yes, Chaos Marines are one of the worst armies in the game. I've been playing them for 15 years, you learn to work around it.

Does this clip from the base rulebook, the 'Jet Thrust Rule', mean that my jet pack unit can shoot and assault in the turn that they arrived by Deep Strike?

A Jet Pack unit that is not locked in combat or charging can move up to 2D6" in the Assault phase, even if they have shot or Run in the preceding Shooting phase or arrived by Deep Strike that turn. When Jet Pack units move in the Assault phase and do not charge, they move just as they would when using their jet packs in the Movement phase.

Evangelos wrote:
Does this clip from the base rulebook, the 'Jet Thrust Rule', mean that my jet pack unit can shoot and assault in the turn that they arrived by Deep Strike?

A Jet Pack unit that is not locked in combat or charging can move up to 2D6" in the Assault phase, even if they have shot or Run in the preceding Shooting phase or arrived by Deep Strike that turn. When Jet Pack units move in the Assault phase and do not charge, they move just as they would when using their jet packs in the Movement phase.

Reread the section you just quoted, specifically the following:

A Jet Pack unit that is not locked in combat or charging...

Charging is the movement used in the Assault phase in order to get into close combat. The entire section you quoted can only be used if you're not going to assault (i.e., charge) in the Assault phase.

I was hoping that this was just in reference to the movement, but that if I wanted I could assault the turn they came in from DS. Say if they were to land within range of an assault.

As I said in my previous post. You cannot assault out of deep strike. It's a rule.

Also, you are reading the "Jet Pack" unit entry. Chaos Marines don't have units that are "Jet Pack" infantry.

You are thinking of "Jump Pack" infantry which is different. Raptors and Warp Talons are "jump infantry" not "jet pack" infantry. They do not have the Jet thrust rule.