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I was playing Orks against a Tau/Renegades army in the Relic mission.

The Tau/Renegades player had 3 Riptides. One of the Riptides grabbed the relic.

I have a few questions about this:

A) Does anything about the mission rules for The Relic in the BRB prevent the Riptide from doing a Thrust move (i.e. moving during the assault phase)? I think it IS allowd to do a Thrust move, but is limited to 6" of thrust move.

B) The Skyborne rule allows models to move over terrain and essentially land on the other side, or even land on top of it, so long as the model can actually be set on top of that terrain. BUT HERE'S MY THINKING...

A normal infantry model must climb vertically (6" per turn) to get to those high ledges. A Riptide can get right on up there immediately whenever it moves. I'm not arguing that. What I'm arguing is that the Riptide would be LIMITED TO SIX INCHES OF MOVEMENT DURING ITS THRUST MOVE.

Just curious what the consensus is, and if any TO's have ruled on it, (e.g. ITC, ETC, etc.)

Thanks for the thoughts and opinions in advance!

According to the mission rules.

the model carrying the Relic cannot Run and can never move more than 6" in any phase.

So yes can do a trust move just not more than 6", about the distance jumping over a building it's a bit of so so, as there is nothing in the rules that explain fully the 6" move or how much it limits if jumping over obstacles.


P.S: the irony it's that by RAW 6" move may stop him from jumping on top of a building or mountain if the movement puts him further than 6" from the original position at the beginning of the phase but may not impede him to jump OVER it if it lands within 6" horizontally...

When using skyborne to go from one horizontal plane to the same, you never measure a vertical component regardless of what is the way.

nosferatu1001 wrote:
When using skyborne to go from one horizontal plane to the same, you never measure a vertical component regardless of what is the way.

as nonsensical as this is, correct... And boy do I abuse it with large vertical terrain

I think we're getting on to two different points here. That's my fault, as my first post lacks clarity.

We are agreed that Skyborne allows the model to move over models and terrain and land on the same horizontal plane. If using the Jet Pack during the Movement phase, it is limited to 6" vertically, horizontally, or a combination of the two.

If using the Jet Pack during the assault phase WITH the Thrust move, it can go 2D6".

The issue is: Can his relic-holding Riptide Thrust move up to the top of a 9" high building and land on top of it during the assault phase, while holding the Relic (which limits that model to 6" of movement in any phase). For arguments' sake, let's assume the Riptide is in base contact with the vertical building it is going to get on top of.

This issue stems from the fact that our local gaming group has been playing Jet Pack units wrong for a long while now. We had (up until this week), allowed those units to move to the very top of tall structures, well beyond their 6" or 2D6" limitations.

Didn't the FAQ addressed that, and said that you in fact had to measure in straight line?
So moving on top a 4" building that is 3" away from you requires 5" of movement (straight line, as opposed to 4 + 3).

Are you referring to the Facebook posted FAQ, which isn't official yet? Or is there another one I'm not recalling?

lucaselgato wrote:
Are you referring to the Facebook posted FAQ, which isn't official yet? Or is there another one I'm not recalling?

I am. But I just checked and I actually found the opposite of what I said in my previous post:

Q: Does vertical movement count towards maximum movement distance on jump pack and jet pack moves?
A: No.

You can't move "up" 9" if you're restricted to 6" , no.