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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/12 15:58:22
Subject: Necron Lychguard
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Deadly Dire Avenger
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So I'm building a Necron army and I can't decide how to equip my Lychguard. I'm thinking about sticking a overlord with warscythe and 2+ 4++ in there, a lord with warscythe and the diviner for +1 reanimation rolls and rerolling saving throws of 1s. I also plan on giving both the lord and overlord a res orb and the lord will have veil of darkness. Any advice would be much appreciated!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/12 17:16:07
Subject: Necron Lychguard
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[DCM]
Longtime Dakkanaut
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I think you'll really only need one Rez Orb, either on the lord or overlord.
I built my Lychguard with the shields, and was glad I did - these guys with a Lord/Overlord with a Warscythe attached are really tough and hard to keep down.
In my unit I had 5 shield guard, the overlord with warscythe and veil of darkness, and a Cryptek with the staff of light. They whipped across the board with the Veil, the Cryptek used the staff's ability after they landed and made shooting at the whole squad very difficult - what shots did get through were saved by the shields or resurrection rolls, which had been boosted to a 4+ because the Cryptek was in the unit.
They easily survived the drop in front of his army and made a huge nuisance of themselves and ate a few small units.
The warscythes on the Lychguard might make them hit harder, but the Shields keep them around VERY well. I'd rather have the shields after what I experienced.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/13 15:32:41
Subject: Re:Necron Lychguard
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy
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You can go with warscythes as long as there in a decurion with Rez orb support. A player in my group runs them with two overlords with orbs and one with the relic orb. They stay alive with a 4+++ rerollable with the non warlord overlord to tank ap3 with 4++ and look out sir to them everything else.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/15 02:02:02
Subject: Necron Lychguard
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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Cheapest typical deathstar build is:
- Orikan
- Overlord (Warscythe, Phase Shifter)
- Lord (Warscythe, Veil)
- 5x Lychguard (sword & shield)
Usually it'll depend on whether you're running the CAD or Decurion, but with this setup you can go either way, as you'll be taking all the ICs from a Royal Court formation.
ResOrbs are generally unnecessary, as the rerollable saves and boosted RP will make them extremely hard to put down.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/15 02:26:40
Subject: Necron Lychguard
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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If I don't have a giant amount of characters I go for Swords. Otherwise there's enough durability to get away with Scythes.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/15 09:13:36
Subject: Necron Lychguard
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Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot
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Add a D/Lord for PE and it gets very, very nasty. Ive ran a smaller deathstar along the lines above before, but soon im running:
D/lord w/ phase shifter, Phylactery, res orb, nightmare shroud, warscythe
O/lord w/ phase shifter, Phylactery, taychon arrow, res orb, voidreaper
Zandrekh
Orikan
Cryptek w/ solar staff
Obyron
Lord w/ res orb, VoD, warscythe
5 Lychguard w/ sword and board.
I put the voidreaper on the o/lord as the higher WS than the D/lord means he is hitting more often on lower rolls, meaning with PE he is going to hit more often overall. I want my PE alive forever hence the 2+/4++/4++, Phylactery on the O/lord & D/lord should hopefully be used considering the 3 wounds.
Im also going to run half up the board in a GA, when they get close, deep strike obyron, D/Lord and lychguard with the no scatter due to 6" of zandrekh, then have the whole group meet up and pop the solar staff. should be close enough to survive a crazy amount of firepower until they get to chopping.
Double redundancy on the +1 to reanimation, so even when hit with D they are getting their 4+ reanimation. It's crazy expensive, to the point of only having a Spyder with fabricator claw to ensure the GA gets to where it needs to be and 2x5 immortals.
Terribly un-competitive, but fun
Up against a War Convo @ 1500 points.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/15 10:33:37
Subject: Necron Lychguard
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Ork-Hunting Inquisitorial Xenokiller
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You never get reanimation against D-weapons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/15 15:44:02
Subject: Necron Lychguard
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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Klowny wrote: D/lord w/ phase shifter, Phylactery, res orb, nightmare shroud, warscythe
O/lord w/ phase shifter, Phylactery, taychon arrow, res orb, voidreaper
Zandrekh
Orikan
Cryptek w/ solar staff
Obyron
Lord w/ res orb, VoD, warscythe
5 Lychguard w/ sword and board.
What exactly do you hope to accomplish with this?
You'll be able to kill, what, two maybe three units with it over the course of the game? Four if you're really lucky/your opponent is really stupid.
But, hey! at least your opponent won't get Slay The Warlord, right?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/15 16:13:58
Subject: Necron Lychguard
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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You could kill more than that by splitting off the Overlord and Destroyer Lord as necessary, as they can easily handle most units by themselves.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/15 17:09:26
Subject: Necron Lychguard
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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But if they can do that (handle most units by themselves) without needing any of the other stuff... what need is there to have all the other stuff?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/16 03:17:47
Subject: Necron Lychguard
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Battle-tested Knight Castellan Pilot
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haha i just wanted to kill the knight lol. plus it sounds fun, probably gonna lose but id rather do cool things instead of winning all the time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/16 03:49:38
Subject: Necron Lychguard
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Deranged Necron Destroyer
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Get a box of warriors and use the torso backs to back both
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It's easy to assume that people arguing an interpretation you disagree with are just looking for an advantage for themselves... But it's quite often not the case. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/16 18:28:10
Subject: Necron Lychguard
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Oberron wrote:Get a box of warriors and use the torso backs to back both
If memory serves me from making my kitbashed Necron Imperial Assassins, the backs from different Necron kits don't fit together without a fair amount of work.
Also, it's the fronts you need. And I think warrior chest pieces, they're too small for the leftover back pieces on the other kits.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/16 21:00:57
Subject: Necron Lychguard
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Been Around the Block
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Hm, really noone favouring warscythes on the lychguard? I thought in a deathstar that's what one would rather have? More killing power, they're already pretty survivable anyway?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/17 01:27:32
Subject: Necron Lychguard
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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With shields and Orikan they're practically immortal.
With Warscythes they're about as survivable as Praetorians... only no where near as fast... and the Praets have a shooting attack, too, meaning some people might even consider them more killy against certain targets (possible 4 wounds dealt per model on the turn you charge.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/17 02:08:15
Subject: Necron Lychguard
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Deranged Necron Destroyer
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Irrumare wrote:Oberron wrote:Get a box of warriors and use the torso backs to back both
If memory serves me from making my kitbashed Necron Imperial Assassins, the backs from different Necron kits don't fit together without a fair amount of work.
Also, it's the fronts you need. And I think warrior chest pieces, they're too small for the leftover back pieces on the other kits.
theres hardly any work involved just a simple file or dremel tool and its done in seconds. The front pieces are slightly to small but hardly noticeable unless you are looking real real up close
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It's easy to assume that people arguing an interpretation you disagree with are just looking for an advantage for themselves... But it's quite often not the case. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/17 02:26:06
Subject: Necron Lychguard
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Fixture of Dakka
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I like Warsyths. Why? Well, I'm an old school player that has 10 old-school Pariah models. The concept of Pariahs got dropped, and Lychguard are the only unit in the Necron codex that can be equipped with Warsythes. I admit, it's not as effective as shields, but I'm not going to abandon or butcher my classic models.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/17 02:58:20
Subject: Necron Lychguard
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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The dilemma can be easily solved by letting them take mixed wargear in the next codex (or maybe even a supplement?)
Three guys at the front with shields, everyone else with Scythes?
No problems.
For the time being, though, a full Warscythe unit is not usually the most effective way to run Lychguard.
:/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/17 05:45:04
Subject: Necron Lychguard
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Fixture of Dakka
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If you could pull of a miracle and get the warsythes into close combat unscathed, with something substantial, but initiative 1 (Power ax terminators perhaps? or possibly orgryn?), then they might be worth it. When do you see those on the field though?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/09/17 07:40:48
Subject: Necron Lychguard
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Proud Triarch Praetorian
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Yes, but one or two ICs carrying Warscythes in the unit would be able to handle a threat like that by themselves.
The only thing you'd need 5+ Warscythes for would be GCs/Superheavies.
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