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Title says it all. I'm 30 points shy of 1500 in my murderhorde list. I can either add 5 more furies or the armor of Skorn.
The d thirser already has 2 greater gifts. Is paying 30 points for adamantium will and -1 strength to incoming attacks worth the investment?

Depends how much you hate getting wounded on 4"s compared to 5's against Scatterbikes.

Bloodthirsters already hit an important point of T6 so that they cannot be ID'd by S10 stuff, so maybe spend on something else for more utility.

Any suggestions? I don't see much available, either that or a bigger fury squad.

Scattbikes wounding on 5s does sound nice tho

Compared to 5 furies i would go with the armour.

Daemon prince wears the armour better though if you ask me.

I agree because I'm wasting points on the 3+ save i already have. But prince doesn't compare to a thirster

-1 S is effectively +1T so you are making your Bloodtrhirster T7 (which is better then the jump from T5 to T6 ona daemon prince.

Ok guys thanks for the help!

 CrownAxe wrote:
-1 S is effectively +1T so you are making your Bloodtrhirster T7 (which is better then the jump from T5 to T6 ona daemon prince.

I tend to disagree with this.

All of this is my opinion of course but this is my reasoning.

The big things to consider when moving from toughness 5 to toughness 6

Strength 4 guns wound half as much meaning the vast majority of infantry and turret guns won't hurt you badly or at all.

Strength 6 guns wound 25% less. Practically, this means you need an additional jetbike squad or additional riptide to kill your 3+ armor prince. Which is enormous as that is often the difference between surviving the turn in the open to assault and heroically getting spit-roasted by scatter lasers or whatever Tau shoot.

Strength 8 guns still wound on 2s

and Strength 10 will double you out. Which effectively means it does 4 wounds instead of 1 adding the additional toughness is like only taking 25% of the damage.

Compare that to the thirster who only improves against strength 6 and strength 8 guns. The prince really gets a lot out of it.

That's before even accounting for the 3+ save!

the one HUGE benefit that the armor gives that the prince doesn't use is the adamantiam will. That is incredibly good to prevent the thirster from getting shrieked or dominated or whatever other psychic nonsense you don't want to happen.

Especially as the thirster is often the only unit in the army without a psyker. He can really draw a lot of attention.

So in conclusion, the prince gets more out of the armor in my opinion, however it is still a great buy for both models and would almost always recommend.

Yeah, i totally agree... A daemon prince gains the most by far out of the psuedo +1T. Especially a khorne one in the daemonkin codex, who cant access any psychic powers to make himself more durable through other means (except greater rewards) barring allies.

Now, whether a daemon prince with armour of scorn is as effective as a bloodthirster with it is another question entirely.

I love the armor, and if I am bringing only a thirster, it will have the armor on. Makes it immune to T3 attacks, so no more death by 1000 cuts from lasguns and whatnot, and plasma is now wounding on 4s instead of 3s.

I feel like its better on a DP for removing instant death, however this isn't a discussion about DP VS thirster.