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I'm kinda new to WH40K so you're probably going to have to look up the formation, I think it says one riptide and two broadsides are the minimum. But regarding special rules that make it over powered, I've got that covered! So basically when you have this formation, you then have the ability to use these special rules:

Coordinated Firestorm: Instead of firing independently in the shooting phase, all units in a firebase support cadre can participate in a coordinated firestorm. When the do so, all models form this formation must shoot at the same target. When resolving the shooting attack, all firing models have tank hunters and monster hunters.

Tank Hunters- A unit that contains at least one model with this special rule rerolls failed armour penetration rolls against vehicles ( both shooting and in close combat) and can choose to reroll glancing hits in an attempt to instead get a penetrating hit-- but the second result must be kept.

Monster Hunter- a unit that contains at least one model with this special rule rerolls all failed to wound rolls against Monstrous Creatures.

Discuss in the thread and have a good day

- Gubbinz

The bigger issue by far is that you get to use one markerlight for several different units. And even then, it's a nice formation-but it ain't broken.

I thought people had warmed up to the tau'curion once ITC (and later the GW FAQ) decided that Monster Hunter etc. didn't spread to all the units firing?

It's not that I don't like it but I feel it makes thing too easy for me. Yes, I do like to challenge myself when it comes to these things.

have allways felt that against a non superheavy, that bonus s gong to get lost n shear overkill your allread have for making all those things fire as a single unit against somethiing

The old version just game tank hunter to the formation of Broadsides (6 I think?) and a Riptide plus some silly PE vs Space Marines. With this it was really easy for multiple HYMP broadsides with Tank Hunter to fire at multiple different targets and tear apart MSU transport spam as well as focus down big vehicles.

This one is more well rounded in its target choice but restrictive in that your forcing at the minimum 2 broadsides and 1 Riptide to focus down the same target to get the benefit. The limited mobility + range of the HYMP Broadsides combined with the general impractical nature of the HRR makes it so its hard to really justify taking them together as they don't really do the same role these days.

Might be a bit of YMTC but if the Broadsides die and the Riptide is the only remaining model left does anything it shoots at counts as the entire formation targeting the same unit? If so then it basically becomes perma Tank/Monster Hunter..

Things like this and the Hunter Contingent are why I wish Target Lock conferred Split Fire rather than what it confers, and why I love putting Target Locks on Monat suits.

Wyldhunt wrote:
I thought people had warmed up to the tau'curion once ITC (and later the GW FAQ) decided that Monster Hunter etc. didn't spread to all the units firing?

It states that if there is more than one model with that rule in a unit, then it applies to all of the other models in the unit.

 WarbossGubbinz wrote:

Wyldhunt wrote:
I thought people had warmed up to the tau'curion once ITC (and later the GW FAQ) decided that Monster Hunter etc. didn't spread to all the units firing?

It states that if there is more than one model with that rule in a unit, then it applies to all of the other models in the unit.

True, but both the ITC and GW FAQ have stated that that sort of Special Rule sharing mechanic (i.e. the "if an model in this unit has X special rule, Y happens" wording) is NOT shared when Tau Hunter Contigent uses its special rule to combine fire from separate units - effectively, the only benefit is shared markerlights and the special rule that the Tanks/'Tides have that further boost their BS when 3 or more models shoot at the same target (beyond the +1 BS granted by the Coordinated Fire contingent rule.

Edit: Not shared to other units that fire at the same time as unit with a model with one of those Special Rules, but of course that rule would apply to any units that actually had a model with one of those special rules. That is, using Coordinated Fire wouldn't prevent a unit that would otherwise benefit from that sort of shared rule from benefitting like normal.