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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 07:40:20
Subject: Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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There are really good Limo models by 3rd party companies like wargame exclusives out there and I think the retro funky rogue trader look, looks cooler than the bulky Goliath models by GW. I plan to buy bitz from the actual goliath kit and put on the correct weapons on the top.
I'm just worried about nerd-rage from any opponents I can claiming it is modeling for advantage or tournaments disqualifying me for using non-official models. Will people flip out and tell me I can't use them and refuse to play? Will I get kicked out of stores?
#FeelsBadMan
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 07:45:26
Subject: Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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[DCM]
Moustache-twirling Princeps
Gone-to-ground in the craters of Coventry
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Rule of Cool.
Make it part of the army's theme, and you can get away with lots of stuff like this.
As long as you don't model for advantage, using a model much smaller for instance, go for it.
We can't speak for your locals, but if it makes the army look better, and doesn't count as cheating, I'd play against it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 07:47:46
Subject: Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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I'm not modelling for advantage but the limo profile is obviously lower than the Goliath truck. As seen here: http://cold-moon.com/40k/Miniatures/GSCult/CultLimoBuilt.jpg
Will some people flip out over it?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 09:14:18
Subject: Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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Veteran Knight Baron in a Crusader
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Alright, hear me out.... Lowrider Limo with it's pneumatic suspension extended all the way up. No? Fine.
Okay seriously though I personally believe that 40k is a beer & pretzels game and won't mind you using a lower model (so long as you don't get anal about cover, but you seem like a nice guy). But there are definitely people who would, so I'd recommend maybe putting it on a taller decorative base to bring it up to a similar height.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 11:17:58
Subject: Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Anyone gives you flack for fielding a limo in a GSC army, just give them a look and tell them to learn their history.
Kid these days, no respect for the old days...
(I helps to mutter like an old man as well. Better yet, be an old man. Helps with the cred for the RT stuff.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 12:22:22
Subject: Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Model on the guns/equipment and I wouldn't have a problem.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 12:53:52
Subject: Re:Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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I'm planning on doing that myself. I'm looking for base models to start my conversions off of though. Not a huge fan of those kits posted above.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 13:09:17
Subject: Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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Nevelon wrote:Anyone gives you flack for fielding a limo in a GSC army, just give them a look and tell them to learn their history.
Kid these days, no respect for the old days...
(I helps to mutter like an old man as well. Better yet, be an old man. Helps with the cred for the RT stuff.)
exalted!
http://s206.photobucket.com/user/MaltonNecromancer/media/covenlimo_zps3c4c3d00.jpg.html
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'No plan survives contact with the enemy. Who are we?'
'THE ENEMY!!!'
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 14:48:33
Subject: Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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Just model it on cut-down flying stands if the height causes whining. Because hover limo > wheeled limo, right?
Or just play less jerky people.
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Stormonu wrote:For me, the joy is in putting some good-looking models on the board and playing out a fantasy battle - not arguing over the poorly-made rules of some 3rd party who neither has any power over my play nor will be visiting me (and my opponent) to ensure we are "playing by the rules" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 16:58:23
Subject: Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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Death-Dealing Devastator
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As long at you only use it as one type of Goliath and explain it's a "count as" to your opponent you shouldn't have a problem unless you're playing "that guy"
You may have some issues if you play in a GW store as it won;t be a GW kit at heart but that depends on the store staff/
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 17:54:38
Subject: Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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Dakka Veteran
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TheManWithNoPlan wrote:
Alright, hear me out.... Lowrider Limo with it's pneumatic suspension extended all the way up. No? Fine.
Okay seriously though I personally believe that 40k is a beer & pretzels game and won't mind you using a lower model (so long as you don't get anal about cover, but you seem like a nice guy). But there are definitely people who would, so I'd recommend maybe putting it on a taller decorative base to bring it up to a similar height.
Bring it up to a similar height would be hard and look not as good... I mean the Limo is already LONGER than the Goliath Truck anyway so am I supposed to shorten it too?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 18:38:28
Subject: Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
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DorianGray wrote:There are really good Limo models by 3rd party companies like wargame exclusives out there and I think the retro funky rogue trader look, looks cooler than the bulky Goliath models by GW. I plan to buy bitz from the actual goliath kit and put on the correct weapons on the top.
I'm just worried about nerd-rage from any opponents I can claiming it is modeling for advantage or tournaments disqualifying me for using non-official models. Will people flip out and tell me I can't use them and refuse to play? Will I get kicked out of stores?
#FeelsBadMan
It's warhammer, nerd rage is unavoidable. However, the key to an average player being ok with "counts as" is consistency. Use only limos to represent the trucks and you should be fine. If you use some trucks and some limos people are less likely to be fine.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 18:44:46
Subject: Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Only if it has an open top hot tub in the back
also bitchin sound systems and suspension
But yeah no reasonable person would deny it.
but there are plently of unreasonable people so keep an eye out and have fun.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 19:02:21
Subject: Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
The ruins of the Palace of Thorns
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I'd be fine with it.
If someone wasn't, you could make a monster truck conversion kit for it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/04 19:21:25
Subject: Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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Insect-Infested Nurgle Chaos Lord
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Fifty wrote:I'd be fine with it.
If someone wasn't, you could make a monster truck conversion kit for it.

He should go with this instead:
http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/roadwarrior/images/7/78/Image.jpg/revision/latest/scale-to-width-down/1000?cb=20150519232940
As for the OP, I would have no problem as long as it's roughly the same dimensions. I know the truck is more boxy while the limo is more of a chocolate bar, but I mean in terms of volume rather than exact dimensions (so maybe if it's about as long as the Raider).
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Kanluwen wrote:
Hell, I'm not that bothered by the Stormraven. Why? Because, as it stands right now, it's "limited use".When it's shoehorned in to the Codex: Space Marines, then yeah. I'll be irked.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/05 03:16:16
Subject: Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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Tunneling Trygon
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Just want to point out that the Chimera is available too, and makes a lot of sense. Can still hold the Primarch and Purestrains, throw in a turret minigun type deal, Bolter in the grill, lasgun arrays are out the windows. I'll be running them there instead of as Goliaths, that's for sure.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/05 04:28:30
Subject: Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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Nasty Nob on a Boar
Inside of a CRASSUS ARMOURED ASSAULT TRANSPORT
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Yeah, try to make it as close to the same size as you can and you'll probably be fine. As for painting these guys, how do you feel about Tuxedo Stealers?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/05 08:58:34
Subject: Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Jup they will not take it any more, get mad and start screaming out of their windows.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/05 09:28:06
Subject: Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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Focused Dark Angels Land Raider Pilot
The grim darkness of far Fenland
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I'm the other way around - I'm not playing against a Goliath when I could be playing against a limo. Limos all the way!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/05 11:14:14
Subject: Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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The Marine Standing Behind Marneus Calgar
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Whittlesey40k wrote:I'm the other way around - I'm not playing against a Goliath when I could be playing against a limo. Limos all the way!!!
That’s a sound policy. I think whenever I see someone playing a GSC army, and they put one of the new things on the table I’ll ask “No limos?” and give them a little good natured flack for the cheesy counts-as truck they bought from GW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/05 12:18:31
Subject: Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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Nevelon wrote: Whittlesey40k wrote:I'm the other way around - I'm not playing against a Goliath when I could be playing against a limo. Limos all the way!!!
That’s a sound policy. I think whenever I see someone playing a GSC army, and they put one of the new things on the table I’ll ask “No limos?” and give them a little good natured flack for the cheesy counts-as truck they bought from GW.
I'll pitch in for it as well. 40k is a beer and pretzel game where terms are agreed upon before the start of each game. Most people probably won't care unless they are super competitive. The real question you need to ask is how your sculpting skills are, because you need some Tommy gun toting cultists popping out of that baby.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/05 14:28:28
Subject: Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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While I'm a big lore fan, I can understand people having consternation with "oh well my Limo is going to shoot its twin-linked autocannons at your..." ---- if the Limo isn't modeled with any of the weapon options from the Goliath.
If modeled correctly I'm all for it, but I normally don't love the idea of magical invisible weaponry - particularly if you're gaming with someone you don't know very well.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/10/07 23:06:48
Subject: Hoping to use Limo models as Genestealer Cult Goliath Trucks - will people get mad?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Want an easy way to make both parties happy if you are playing someone who objects? With the sprues make an outline of the shape of the actual height and width/length of the Goliath. So use your mini but when something "Line of Site" question pops up just but the frame over your limo. If you can see the frame then you can see the limo.
This way there is no advantage and you can still use your mini and everything should be fine.
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Agies Grimm:The "Learn to play, bro" mentality is mostly just a way for someone to try to shame you by implying that their metaphorical nerd-wiener is bigger than yours. Which, ironically, I think nerds do even more vehemently than jocks.
Everything is made up and the points don't matter. 40K or Who's Line is it Anyway?
Auticus wrote: Or in summation: its ok to exploit shoddy points because those are rules and gamers exist to find rules loopholes (they are still "legal"), but if the same force can be composed without structure, it emotionally feels "wrong". |
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