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Hi all! I`m newish to 40k and wanting to put together a strong, flexible list that is good for local matches at the nearest Games Workshop. I think this is solid without being a big ball of cheese. Opinions and constructive criticism welcome and appreciated!!

CAD

115 Farseer
- Spirit Stone

81 3 Windriders
- Scatter Lasers

81 3 Windriders
- Scatter Lasers

81 3 Windriders
- Scatter Lasers

145 10 Dire Avengers
- Exarch,
- Twin linked A.S.C.

140 Wave Serpent
- T.L. Scatter laser
- Cannon
- Holo Field

95 Hornet
- 2 Pulse laser
- Holo field

95 Hornet
- 2 Pulse laser
- Holo field

121 Swooping Hawks (5+Exarch+Sunrifle)

165 Vaul`s Wrath Battery
- 3 D-Cannons


Aspect Host

110 Warp Spiders (4+ Exarch)

110 Warp Spiders (4 + Exarch)

140 Dark Reapers (4 + Exarch)


Total: 1,479

Hi,

I believe you need more windriders. The dire avengers dont offer anything to you. The hornets are very good but they are very fragile because of the av10 (I also play with 2 but wihout the holo field). in 1500pts you can allready fit a wraithknight easily. I also believe you need more long range weapons, like dark reapers or a falcon squadron.

Hi! Thank you for your reply.

I like the dire avengers for both anti infantry and for camping an objective, but you`re right, there are certainly better options. I could take them in the Dire Avenger shrine for BS5 and a turn of assault 3.

Hornets are actually AV 11 and offer a total of 8 st 8 shots at 48 inches.

The windriders and wave serpents offer 40 more str 6 shots at 36 inches.

I do have Dark Reapers who offer another 10 shots at 48 inches at BS 5, but I`m limiting their use because they are a large point investment for a small number of bodies.

A falcon squadron doesn`t offer much more firepower for the increased cost.

I`m not going to run a Wraith Knight in a 1500 point game, I feel like it`s a little dirty.

Welcome to Dakka.

Your list looks pretty decent as-is. Especially when one of your stated goals is to avoid "being a big ball of cheese”.

You might already be across that line, but that depends a lot on your local meta. If they tend towards the competitive side, you should be OK. But you are hitting a few of the eldar hot buttons. Scatbike spam, spiders, D. Depending how common FW is in your area, the hornets might raise some eyebrows as well.

I think you might be a little light on AV firepower. The Vaul’s is short range, and the hornets are fragile. While S6 spam can glance down a lot of things, against AV13+ it’s going to struggle. I might swap the WS over to brightlances a a start.

If you are including the DAs to camp objectives, I might run the shimmershield on the exarch, rather then the extra gun. You might not be able to get into cover, and the 5++ can help them survive for as long as they need to hold on.

It also might be worth getting a second aspect host going. The DA would loose ObSec, but gain BS5.

Alright, I reworked my list after some great advice.

- Both Serpents now have twin-linked bright lances firing at BS 5

- Broke my reapers down into a more MSU approach to take advantage of the exarchs getting additional shots with Star Swarm missiles at BS 6.

- Added a Night Spinner for Anti Infantry and the general utility of mono-filament large blasts

- Shuffled things up to take advantage of the +1 BS offered by a second Aspect Host.

- Removed all D weapons to keep things more friendly.


CAD


135 Farseer
- Spirit Stone
- Jetbike
- Singing spear


81 3 Windriders
- Scatter Lasers


81 3 Windriders
- Scatter Lasers


81 3 Windriders
- Scatter Lasers


95 Hornet
- 2x Pulse
- Holo


100 NightSpinner
- Doom Weaver Cannon



Aspect Host

110 Warp Spiders (4+ Exarch)

110 Warp Spiders (4 + Exarch)

121 Swooping Hawks (5 + Exarch)
- Exarch + Sunrifle



Aspect Host

117 Dark Reaper (2 + Exarch + Starshot)

117 Dark Reaper (2 + Exarch + Starshot)

90 Reaper (2 + Exarch)




Dedicated Transport

130 Wave Serpent
- T.L bright lance
- Holo

130 Wave Serpent
- T.L bright lance
- holo



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