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Just to prefece, I hate white

BUT

Painting Thousand sons heresy, I need to paint white.

My process is follows, I get the model the metallic candy apple red, then I paint all the other colors on it. As a note, I masking tape when I air brush to avoid the robe areas. (or most places that needs to be white)

I base in Celestia grey, then layer on white thinning it down.

Here is my confusion. Its a clean brush, clean water, and when the white dries it looks like I mixed red and looks pink in many recessed areas.

Is this just the brain/eyes seeing a reflection from the armor? I cant understand any other way. I have covered up the rest of the model also to see if its a reflection and its still there

Palyd witch flesh, thank me later.

its because you are painting red over the eye socket and then painting with a thinned down white. Make sure your paint is 100% dry as well, if you are thinning it down, you could be picking up the red before it had time to dry and fully set in.

Also do not use pure white, it is one of those colors you only want to use for the highest of highlights and thats it, if you want white, use administorum gray, then palyd witch flesh.

What kind of metallic paint is it? I had a deep blue metallic pain quite some years ago. And they take a long time to dry. Maybe the paint pulled some of the red metallic paint with it.

 Backspacehacker wrote:
Palyd witch flesh, thank me later.

Second. I also use Pallid Witch Flesh (Celestia grey, pallid witch flesh, off-brand white for highlights).

Pics might help.

The metallic red has been dried for days

The areas I am doing white have been taped off do red does not even get painted on the area

I based the area celestia grey then did watered down white scar. Clean water and clean brushes. The pic is about 3 coats in and the red if you can see stays

str00dles1 wrote:
The metallic red has been dried for days

The areas I am doing white have been taped off do red does not even get painted on the area

I based the area celestia grey then did watered down white scar. Clean water and clean brushes. The pic is about 3 coats in and the red if you can see stays

Ohhhh wait wait are you using the same brush?

I like puzzles.

1) There "should" be no bleed-thru because you put down a opaque grey layer before the white, right?
2) I would STRONGLY suggest you choose a "cream" or "very light grey" (brown for dirty/old or blue/grey for new/clean) as your first layering paint over the grey.
If you decide on cream, Khaki or tan base-coat would look ace before the cream.
Thinking about it, the cream will be a bit more forgiving with that metallic red contrast: brown is really a glorified red/yellow/orange.
Eye-gouging-titanium-white gives you no higher white for edge highlighting and makes any kind of recess shading look like garbage.
(no comment on your painting, more past reflection of my own white "fails").
It is due to the tones between layering paints are so vast, you need a more gradual change.
Plus when it is that white, anything that shows through is too much, that is how things start looking chalky/translucent/see-through.
3) Once you have toned-down the base layer edge highlighting in that strong white will give the illusion of a very white cloak.
4) I honestly think the reflection of the arm colour is reflecting onto the white: cover the arms temporarily in something black and look again under same conditions.
<edit>Noticed the overspray on the base, paint that black and look again.
5) Be incredibly careful of contamination. A metallic red is the worst of both worlds around white. Metallic glitter is hard to keep out of normal paints: always use different water for metallics. Even cleaning brushes can be difficult. Unless you want your model to look like it is going out to the club or is a follower of Slanesh: be careful. Even a hint of red will immediately make the white pink, I agree using a different well cleaned (and previously well dried) brush would be the safest option.

I hope this helps.

To me, it looks like the red is reflecting onto the white. If I stare at whatever I think is pink, I still see it as pink when I cover the red in your pictures. If I focus overall before covering up the red, the white looks white.

So, yes, I think your eyes may be tricking you.

And now that I keep looking for a pink hue to whites, I keep seeing it everwhere. Confirmation bias?

to me it looks completely white, no pink whatsoever