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From everything i have read, i always thought that the chaos gods could not manifest in the physical universe. But lately i keep seeing things about slaanesh possibly doing just that.

This is from the wh40k wiki on eldrad ulthran: In the climax of the Black Crusade, Eldrad attempted to retake a Blackstone Fortress alongside a coterie of seers, but the fortress was already occupied by Slaanesh, the Great Enemy. As Eldrad realized his folly his soul was devoured, and the greatest Farseer of the Eldar was lost.

This is a post from someone on another topic about abbadon giving fulgrim a gift: He offered Fulgrim a bride. A perfect psyker that could serve as a vessel for Slaanesh to manifest in the material world.

am i just misunderstanding? or is there evidence that a chaos god can actually manifest in the physical universe?
   
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The exact description of the Talisman power is:
'The anguished remnants of the Talisman’s consciousness had long since died, replaced with a vile, hateful core of ever-thirsting darkness, and as it reached out to claim hem, he realized in horror that it was no random power of the Dark Gods that had corrupted the Talisman. It was the power of She Who Thirsts, The Great Enemy… Slaanesh.'
('The Final Hours' part IX)

Which needn't mean literal full-on Slaanesh. It could be a daemon.
   
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Also what "avatar of slaanesh" actually means is debatable seeing as though Keepers of Secrets have been refered to as Avatars of Slaanesh as well as Fulgrim himself. This is reflected throughout all of the Chaos gods and even the Eldar ones with the Avatar of Khaine.

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Slaanesh sort of already did, and brought a big chunk of the warp with her/him/it. Where it to happen again I'd expect a similar result.

His pattern of returning alive after being declared dead occurred often enough during Cain's career that the Munitorum made a special ruling that Ciaphas Cain is to never be considered dead, despite evidence to the contrary. 
   
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That wasn't Slaanesh entering the material world, that was Slaanesh being born in the warp and psychicly destroying almost all of the Eldar empire. This kind of psychic death on such a large scale caused the tear we know as the Eye of Terror.

(I've probably explained that horribly haven't I?)

Ghorros wrote:
The moral of the story: Don't park your Imperial Knight in a field of Gretchin carrying power tools.
 Marmatag wrote:
All the while, my opponent is furious, throwing his codex on the floor, trying to slash his wrists with safety scissors.
 
   
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tgs6000 wrote:
From everything i have read, i always thought that the chaos gods could not manifest in the physical universe. But lately i keep seeing things about slaanesh possibly doing just that.

This is from the wh40k wiki on eldrad ulthran: In the climax of the Black Crusade, Eldrad attempted to retake a Blackstone Fortress alongside a coterie of seers, but the fortress was already occupied by Slaanesh, the Great Enemy. As Eldrad realized his folly his soul was devoured, and the greatest Farseer of the Eldar was lost.

This is a post from someone on another topic about abbadon giving fulgrim a gift: He offered Fulgrim a bride. A perfect psyker that could serve as a vessel for Slaanesh to manifest in the material world.

am i just misunderstanding? or is there evidence that a chaos god can actually manifest in the physical universe?


Abbadon did give Fulgrim a perfect psyker as serve as a vessel for Slaanesh. In fact the entire crusade I forget which number was to capture this psyker. The Fluff's in the Black Legion supplement if I remember correctly.

While Slaanesh hasn't physically manifested in 40K. S/he did partially do so during the End Times for Fantasy. First as an enormous eye staring down onto the battlefield. At one point S/he was even about to step though a warp portal to claim the souls of all those present. Unfortunately, the elves managed to sabotage the ritual. But Slaanesh still managed to reach out of the warp Bayonetta-style and dragged two characters to there doom in the warp.

"Fear the cute ones." 
   
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Halandri

I think that was the Pandorax campaign, where Abaddon broke open a gateway to hell and invested huge numbers of troops into a meat grinder in order to provide a distraction while he captured this psyker.
   
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I think for the OP the meaning of manifest is that Slaanesh would be able to send part of themselves into the psyker. I interpret that as the person being a vessel that Slaanesh could communicate through to Fulgrim. But it would only be a very small part of Slaanesh. A chaos god (or any god in the warp) is simply too large and powerful to be limited to one physical body. They are literally in millions of places doing millions of things simultaneously.

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 Freytag93 wrote:
I think for the OP the meaning of manifest is that Slaanesh would be able to send part of themselves into the psyker. I interpret that as the person being a vessel that Slaanesh could communicate through to Fulgrim. But it would only be a very small part of Slaanesh. A chaos god (or any god in the warp) is simply too large and powerful to be limited to one physical body. They are literally in millions of places doing millions of things simultaneously.


Plus there prescense in one place likely cause real trouble for lightyears away.

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Daemons are basically fragments of their god if I remember right so technically that god's influence and forces seeping into the material realm is their way of manifesting. Also I wouldn't put too much faith in what you read on 40kwiki; lexicanum would be better to read.

   
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 Freytag93 wrote:
I think for the OP the meaning of manifest is that Slaanesh would be able to send part of themselves into the psyker. I interpret that as the person being a vessel that Slaanesh could communicate through to Fulgrim. But it would only be a very small part of Slaanesh. A chaos god (or any god in the warp) is simply too large and powerful to be limited to one physical body. They are literally in millions of places doing millions of things simultaneously.


The fluff specifically said the psyker would be a vessel for Slaanesh an avatar that the god could presumably directly control and experience the material universe. Fulgrim already has a direct connection to Slaanesh as he is an Exalted Daemon Prince after all.

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