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Hey dakkanists,
first question: If dataslate says X can take items from the special issue wargear list. X is jump infantry (jump pack stocked) can he take a space marine bike which would change the unit type to biker, like it would with normal infantry model?

second question: Can a biker or jump infantry IC join a squad of basic footslogging infantry? It would narrow the movement option's with the IC, but could it join the squad anyway?

I can give more specific examples if needed.
   
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Footnote 1 under Special Wargear should be sufficient if we are talking Codex marines.

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Xirax wrote:
Hey dakkanists,
first question: If dataslate says X can take items from the special issue wargear list. X is jump infantry (jump pack stocked) can he take a space marine bike which would change the unit type to biker, like it would with normal infantry model?

second question: Can a biker or jump infantry IC join a squad of basic footslogging infantry? It would narrow the movement option's with the IC, but could it join the squad anyway?

I can give more specific examples if needed.


First Question-Read your Codex. It states pretty clearly whether or not that's possible.

Second Question-Yes, they can.

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Hard time finding the correct spot from the codex. BA codex has a footnote which isn't that good for me, "libbie riding a bike may not also take a jump pack.." It doesn't say that you can't discard the current and swap to another. BA libbies are stocked foot slogging.

I'm trying to figure out if it's possible to take a space marine bike for death company chaplain and change the jump infantry type to biker and can it then join a squad of jump packed death company.

Second if my IC is the only one having a jump pack in a squad, can it re-roll the charge range if jump pack was not used during the turn. Unit probably would need to maintain unit coherency? but if the IC reaches the charge distance what would be the charge distance for the footsloggers?

Hope I made myself even a bit more understandable.

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On the page with the wargear lists (that include point costs), next to Space Marine Bike and Jump Pack, you should see a superscript 1 (I think, not 100% sure on the number). Below the lists it will have an explanation on what that number means.

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Bikes and Jump Packs are mutually exclusive.

No-that ability does not confer to the unit as a whole. Debatably, you can reroll the charge range for JUST the IC, but I'm not sure if that's RAW.

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What about if a bike captain was attached to a unit of assault marines with jump packs. Could they all move 12" together?

Don't have the SM codex only BA.
   
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Xirax wrote:
second question: Can a biker or jump infantry IC join a squad of basic footslogging infantry? It would narrow the movement option's with the IC, but could it join the squad anyway?

Bikes will not be affected, save for the need to stay in unit cohesion. All of there bonuses are specific to the model, and models can move their full distance with the only regard being unit cohesion.

Jump Packs are a different story. If we go by the rulebook alone, all models in a unit have to Jump or not Jump together. Movement advantages are only provided when the unit Jumps. The Draft FAQ states otherwise, effectively changing the "unit" in the Jump unit type rules to "model" without actually stating such. It also allows for a Jumper to allow the whole unit to reroll Charge if used for that Phase.

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