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2016/11/14 16:28:52
Subject: Boston Marathon Bombing Movie to star Mark Wahlberg, Kevin Bacon, John Goodman, and JK Simmons
A new trailer for the Boston Marathon bombing movie, Patriots Day, was published today. Following the first trailer in October, this new one shows off more of the film that chronicles the April 2013 bombing and its immediate aftermath, including the manhunt for the two suspects.
Mark Wahlberg stars as police sergeant Tommy Saunders, while Kevin Bacon, John Goodman, J.K. Simmons, and Carol Saunders also appear as people affected by the terrorist attack. The film weaves together their stories.
Patriots Day is directed by Peter Berg, who directed Wahlberg in the past for Lone Survivor and Deepwater Horizon. The movie sees a limited release on December 21, before expanding to more theaters on January 13, 2017.
It's called Patriots Day because the Boston Marathon bombings took place on the state holiday of Patriots' Day in April 2013. The marathon takes place every year on that holiday.
Quoted the whole article because it's only like 4 paragraphs long. My main thought on this is.....why? For a disaster that's not all that old and probably still fresh to some of the victims, this seems like a poor move. But I guess any disaster can be made into a movie at this point.
A new trailer for the Boston Marathon bombing movie, Patriots Day, was published today. Following the first trailer in October, this new one shows off more of the film that chronicles the April 2013 bombing and its immediate aftermath, including the manhunt for the two suspects.
Mark Wahlberg stars as police sergeant Tommy Saunders, while Kevin Bacon, John Goodman, J.K. Simmons, and Carol Saunders also appear as people affected by the terrorist attack. The film weaves together their stories.
Patriots Day is directed by Peter Berg, who directed Wahlberg in the past for Lone Survivor and Deepwater Horizon. The movie sees a limited release on December 21, before expanding to more theaters on January 13, 2017.
It's called Patriots Day because the Boston Marathon bombings took place on the state holiday of Patriots' Day in April 2013. The marathon takes place every year on that holiday.
Quoted the whole article because it's only like 4 paragraphs long. My main thought on this is.....why? For a disaster that's not all that old and probably still fresh to some of the victims, this seems like a poor move. But I guess any disaster can be made into a movie at this point.
Pro-American rah-rah distraction in the face of the election?
But I agree that this seems to be in very bad taste. A somber documentary would have been much more appropriate and respectful to the victims.
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2016/11/14 16:41:32
Subject: Re:Boston Marathon Bombing Movie to star Mark Wahlberg, Kevin Bacon, John Goodman, and JK Simmons
A new trailer for the Boston Marathon bombing movie, Patriots Day, was published today. Following the first trailer in October, this new one shows off more of the film that chronicles the April 2013 bombing and its immediate aftermath, including the manhunt for the two suspects.
Mark Wahlberg stars as police sergeant Tommy Saunders, while Kevin Bacon, John Goodman, J.K. Simmons, and Carol Saunders also appear as people affected by the terrorist attack. The film weaves together their stories.
Patriots Day is directed by Peter Berg, who directed Wahlberg in the past for Lone Survivor and Deepwater Horizon. The movie sees a limited release on December 21, before expanding to more theaters on January 13, 2017.
It's called Patriots Day because the Boston Marathon bombings took place on the state holiday of Patriots' Day in April 2013. The marathon takes place every year on that holiday.
Quoted the whole article because it's only like 4 paragraphs long. My main thought on this is.....why? For a disaster that's not all that old and probably still fresh to some of the victims, this seems like a poor move. But I guess any disaster can be made into a movie at this point.
I think your article answers your question for you:
Patriots Day is directed by Peter Berg, who directed Wahlberg in the past for Lone Survivor and Deepwater Horizon.
The director seems interested in major events which have occurred in the last 10 years (give or take).
Why was American Sniper made a few years after the events portrayed in the book? Or Black Hawk Down a few years after those events transpired? Or Flight 93? Or the Sully movie? People are interested in spectacular stories, especially those that are pulled from "real life."
Why is this movie problematic for you?
2016/11/14 16:51:49
Subject: Boston Marathon Bombing Movie to star Mark Wahlberg, Kevin Bacon, John Goodman, and JK Simmons
A new trailer for the Boston Marathon bombing movie, Patriots Day, was published today. Following the first trailer in October, this new one shows off more of the film that chronicles the April 2013 bombing and its immediate aftermath, including the manhunt for the two suspects.
Mark Wahlberg stars as police sergeant Tommy Saunders, while Kevin Bacon, John Goodman, J.K. Simmons, and Carol Saunders also appear as people affected by the terrorist attack. The film weaves together their stories.
Patriots Day is directed by Peter Berg, who directed Wahlberg in the past for Lone Survivor and Deepwater Horizon. The movie sees a limited release on December 21, before expanding to more theaters on January 13, 2017.
It's called Patriots Day because the Boston Marathon bombings took place on the state holiday of Patriots' Day in April 2013. The marathon takes place every year on that holiday.
Quoted the whole article because it's only like 4 paragraphs long. My main thought on this is.....why? For a disaster that's not all that old and probably still fresh to some of the victims, this seems like a poor move. But I guess any disaster can be made into a movie at this point.
I think your article answers your question for you:
Patriots Day is directed by Peter Berg, who directed Wahlberg in the past for Lone Survivor and Deepwater Horizon.
The director seems interested in major events which have occurred in the last 10 years (give or take).
Why was American Sniper made a few years after the events portrayed in the book? Or Black Hawk Down a few years after those events transpired? Or Flight 93? Or the Sully movie? People are interested in spectacular stories, especially those that are pulled from "real life."
Why is this movie problematic for you?
American Sniper, Black Hawk Down, and even Flight 93 can be seen as either action movies or heroic movies or even dramas. They're not really considered "tragedies". The Boston Marathon Bombing was the latest big terror attack (excluding events like the Orlando Pulse club shooting) and isn't really an action or heroic movie. Idk, I might be biased because I didn't think World Trade Center with Nic Cage was appropriate either.
DarkTraveler777 wrote: Why was American Sniper made a few years after the events portrayed in the book? Or Black Hawk Down a few years after those events transpired? Or Flight 93? Or the Sully movie? People are interested in spectacular stories, especially those that are pulled from "real life."
Why is this movie problematic for you?
At least for me, you answered the question directly. There was nothing spectacular about about the Boston Bombing. There are no great heroes, like Sully or Kyle, and no fasctinating backdrop like Somalia (as well as an incredible cast).
This is just 2 stupid young men who got radicalized and killed lot of people in a very un-cinematic way. They were functionally terrorist script kiddies, not great supervillains. No interesting story to tell, no layered subtext to invoke.
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2016/11/14 16:53:51
Subject: Boston Marathon Bombing Movie to star Mark Wahlberg, Kevin Bacon, John Goodman, and JK Simmons
DarkTraveler777 wrote: Why was American Sniper made a few years after the events portrayed in the book? Or Black Hawk Down a few years after those events transpired? Or Flight 93? Or the Sully movie? People are interested in spectacular stories, especially those that are pulled from "real life."
Why is this movie problematic for you?
At least for me, you answered the question directly. There was nothing spectacular about about the Boston Bombing. There are no great heroes, like Sully or Kyle, and no incredible backdrop like Somalia (as well as an incredible cast).
This is just 2 stupid young men who got radicalized and killed lot of people in a very un-cinematic way. They were functionally terrorist script kiddies, not great supervillains.
Plus Marky Mark
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2016/11/14 17:10:51
Subject: Boston Marathon Bombing Movie to star Mark Wahlberg, Kevin Bacon, John Goodman, and JK Simmons
DarkTraveler777 wrote: Why was American Sniper made a few years after the events portrayed in the book? Or Black Hawk Down a few years after those events transpired? Or Flight 93? Or the Sully movie? People are interested in spectacular stories, especially those that are pulled from "real life."
Why is this movie problematic for you?
At least for me, you answered the question directly. There was nothing spectacular about about the Boston Bombing. There are no great heroes, like Sully or Kyle, and no fasctinating backdrop like Somalia (as well as an incredible cast).
This is just 2 stupid young men who got radicalized and killed lot of people in a very un-cinematic way. They were functionally terrorist script kiddies, not great supervillains. No interesting story to tell, no layered subtext to invoke.
They will probably focus some on the radicalizing, but will make sure not to appear sympathetic to their cause or to make them look like they could be anything except typical cartoon bad guys.
As for the bombing, I wouldn't call un-cinematic. It will probably be the majority of Act 1. There will be a small intro, giving background of the bad guys, they will find a way to work that photo that was used in the Rolling Stones cover into the movie. Then the actual bombing takes center stage. It will be one of those scenes where everybody knows it's coming, but they will tease and buildup to the moment nonetheless. Small children walking near the backpack, hometown heroes running past. Young pregnant wife cheering on her husband near the finishing line. BOOM. CGI explosion, confusion, children crying, people flocking to help. BOOM. Second explosion. More drama, more injuries, more blood. People fleeing and running away, abandoning each other. But wait, what's that, they are turning back. Injured people are helping each other. More people are running towards the danger. Americans helping Americans. This is who we are, this is what we do, USA USA USA.
And then you have Act 2: The manhunt for the bombers. Law enforcement flocking through the cities, families scared and locked in their homes. After following different leads, and some people getting wrongfully accused, they will track them down and have the shootout. But one gets away, and the search continues. He will be found. He will be brought to justice. The next to final scene will be bad guy giving himself up, bloody and wounded, standing on that boat, camera pans out to show the neighborhood at night, police surrounding him, helicopters flying in circles, American flag on the porch of the house he was hiding behind.
Last shot of the movie: Trooper Sean Murphy who released the pictures of the bad guy giving himself up gives his speech for his retirement. He talks about why he released the pictures. There will be flashbacks to the actor playing Tsarnaev looking like the Rolling Stones cover, there will be flashbacks to the actor standing on that boat, bloodied and defeated, unable to break the American spirit.
I haven't bothered to watch the trailer, so I am probably completely on the wrong track here . But it wouldn't be hard for the studios to make this a movie that audiences would eat up.
2016/11/14 17:13:47
Subject: Boston Marathon Bombing Movie to star Mark Wahlberg, Kevin Bacon, John Goodman, and JK Simmons
A new trailer for the Boston Marathon bombing movie, Patriots Day, was published today. Following the first trailer in October, this new one shows off more of the film that chronicles the April 2013 bombing and its immediate aftermath, including the manhunt for the two suspects.
Mark Wahlberg stars as police sergeant Tommy Saunders, while Kevin Bacon, John Goodman, J.K. Simmons, and Carol Saunders also appear as people affected by the terrorist attack. The film weaves together their stories.
Patriots Day is directed by Peter Berg, who directed Wahlberg in the past for Lone Survivor and Deepwater Horizon. The movie sees a limited release on December 21, before expanding to more theaters on January 13, 2017.
It's called Patriots Day because the Boston Marathon bombings took place on the state holiday of Patriots' Day in April 2013. The marathon takes place every year on that holiday.
Quoted the whole article because it's only like 4 paragraphs long. My main thought on this is.....why? For a disaster that's not all that old and probably still fresh to some of the victims, this seems like a poor move. But I guess any disaster can be made into a movie at this point.
I think your article answers your question for you:
Patriots Day is directed by Peter Berg, who directed Wahlberg in the past for Lone Survivor and Deepwater Horizon.
The director seems interested in major events which have occurred in the last 10 years (give or take).
Why was American Sniper made a few years after the events portrayed in the book? Or Black Hawk Down a few years after those events transpired? Or Flight 93? Or the Sully movie? People are interested in spectacular stories, especially those that are pulled from "real life."
Why is this movie problematic for you?
American Sniper, Black Hawk Down, and even Flight 93 can be seen as either action movies or heroic movies or even dramas. They're not really considered "tragedies". The Boston Marathon Bombing was the latest big terror attack (excluding events like the Orlando Pulse club shooting) and isn't really an action or heroic movie. Idk, I might be biased because I didn't think World Trade Center with Nic Cage was appropriate either.
You haven't seen the movie yet, so your claim that it "isn't really an action or heroic movie" seems pre-mature.
I am trying to understand your perspective, why is Flight 93 okay as a heroic movie but World Trade Center isn't?
DarkTraveler777 wrote: Why was American Sniper made a few years after the events portrayed in the book? Or Black Hawk Down a few years after those events transpired? Or Flight 93? Or the Sully movie? People are interested in spectacular stories, especially those that are pulled from "real life."
Why is this movie problematic for you?
At least for me, you answered the question directly. There was nothing spectacular about about the Boston Bombing. There are no great heroes, like Sully or Kyle, and no fasctinating backdrop like Somalia (as well as an incredible cast).
This is just 2 stupid young men who got radicalized and killed lot of people in a very un-cinematic way. They were functionally terrorist script kiddies, not great supervillains. No interesting story to tell, no layered subtext to invoke.
I think that is a rather unfair assessment considering the man-hunt which occurred after the bombing, and the fire fights that took place between the brothers and law enforcement. If Kyle can be considered a hero despite his lies and questionable character, why not the law enforcement personnel which engaged with the brothers and eventually apprehended one of them?
Also, Americans were blown up on their own soil. For many Americans this was a major, tramautic event, and as a nation which often understands our own history through movies I don't see how this event can be deemed "un-cinematic."
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2016/11/14 17:48:25
Subject: Boston Marathon Bombing Movie to star Mark Wahlberg, Kevin Bacon, John Goodman, and JK Simmons
A new trailer for the Boston Marathon bombing movie, Patriots Day, was published today. Following the first trailer in October, this new one shows off more of the film that chronicles the April 2013 bombing and its immediate aftermath, including the manhunt for the two suspects.
Mark Wahlberg stars as police sergeant Tommy Saunders, while Kevin Bacon, John Goodman, J.K. Simmons, and Carol Saunders also appear as people affected by the terrorist attack. The film weaves together their stories.
Patriots Day is directed by Peter Berg, who directed Wahlberg in the past for Lone Survivor and Deepwater Horizon. The movie sees a limited release on December 21, before expanding to more theaters on January 13, 2017.
It's called Patriots Day because the Boston Marathon bombings took place on the state holiday of Patriots' Day in April 2013. The marathon takes place every year on that holiday.
Quoted the whole article because it's only like 4 paragraphs long. My main thought on this is.....why? For a disaster that's not all that old and probably still fresh to some of the victims, this seems like a poor move. But I guess any disaster can be made into a movie at this point.
It's in poor taste. No matter the reasoning. But that is just my opinion. Just as with the 9/11 dramas, I'll never watch it.
At least they waited a few years to make a drama film based on the event, as they did with 9/11. I'm grateful for that much.
As for disaster films, you can make a fictional disaster movie and still pull in the big bucks. When I was a kid, disaster films were all the rage. The Poseidon Adventure and Airport are modern classics. And you had popular films back in the 1970's dealing with the "Big One" in California, among other disaster films (the 1970's was the golden age of the disaster film). I remember watching Earthquake and Meteor on television as a kid in the late 70's. People are still drawn to such films, fiction or not. So, using real life events so close to when they happened, as drama fodder, is unnecessary.
But that's Hollyweird for you.
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2016/11/14 17:52:10
Subject: Boston Marathon Bombing Movie to star Mark Wahlberg, Kevin Bacon, John Goodman, and JK Simmons
oldravenman3025 wrote: It's in poor taste. No matter the reasoning. But that is just my opinion. Just as with the 9/11 dramas, I'll never watch it.
At least they waited a few years to make a drama film based on the event, as they did with 9/11. I'm grateful for that much.
So, using real life events so close to when they happened, as drama fodder, is unnecessary.
If I am understanding you correctly, the proximity of the event to the present is the cause for the movie being in poor taste, but you also admitted that you'd never watch the movies based on 9/11 (which some of those films are going on 10 years old at this point).
Is there a point in time when a tragedy can receive a film treatment in your opinion or are certain events just untouchable in regards to making a film around them?
2016/11/14 18:11:30
Subject: Boston Marathon Bombing Movie to star Mark Wahlberg, Kevin Bacon, John Goodman, and JK Simmons
oldravenman3025 wrote: It's in poor taste. No matter the reasoning. But that is just my opinion. Just as with the 9/11 dramas, I'll never watch it.
At least they waited a few years to make a drama film based on the event, as they did with 9/11. I'm grateful for that much.
So, using real life events so close to when they happened, as drama fodder, is unnecessary.
If I am understanding you correctly, the proximity of the event to the present is the cause for the movie being in poor taste, but you also admitted that you'd never watch the movies based on 9/11 (which some of those films are going on 10 years old at this point).
Is there a point in time when a tragedy can receive a film treatment in your opinion or are certain events just untouchable in regards to making a film around them?
I guess it's more of a personal thing. I had acquaintances (via a mutual friend) that went to work in Number One and Number Two World Trade Center that morning, and never got to go home that evening. And a friend (one of my ex's aunts) who is still alive today because she had to run an errand away from her office. She worked for the DoD at the Pentagon in 2001 (now retired).
My mother still can't watch war movies of any kind, ESPECIALLY films set in the Vietnam War (fictional or not). There are friends of hers, and people she went to school with/locals her family knew, whose names are on The Wall. And that was over four decades ago. Desert Sheild/Desert Storm was during the end of my time in the military. The sight of those Iraqi corpses near their positions and vehicles, literally grilled like meat, still bothers me. Back in 2002, a friend of mine who also served in Desert Storm, had some photographs of the remains of dead Iraqi troops, along with blasted vehicles, he took while he was there. He was showing them to us at work. When I saw them, I had to quickly excuse myself to go and puke my guts out. Nowadays, I'm over such extreme reactions. But those images still elicit bad memories.
Time may heal all wounds. But how much time varies. And in many instances, some people never get over something completely. It stays with them.
So, yeah. I guess you can say that proximity may have something to do with molding my opinion. At least, insofar as to how tasteless I may think it is. As for if anything should be off-limits period, I would say no. I'm a firm believer if freedom of speech and expression. I may think to be tasteless to make a buck off of historical tragedies (outside of educational documentaries). But I still believe that people have the right to pursue controversial (or troubling) subjects in film. If it's something that I find distasteful or uncomfortable, I'll simply not watch it. Simple as that. I won't intrude on others rights to view or make such material.
Marky Mark in the lead. Meh. Can anyone name a Marky Mark movie where he has the lead that doesn't suck?
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2016/11/14 19:01:30
Subject: Boston Marathon Bombing Movie to star Mark Wahlberg, Kevin Bacon, John Goodman, and JK Simmons
It's in poor taste. No matter the reasoning. But that is just my opinion. Just as with the 9/11 dramas, I'll never watch it.
There you go.
-"Wait a minute.....who is that Frazz is talking to in the gallery? Hmmm something is going on here.....Oh.... it seems there is some dispute over video taping of some sort......Frazz is really upset now..........wait a minute......whats he go there.......is it? Can it be?....Frazz has just unleashed his hidden weiner dog from his mini bag, while quoting shakespeares "Let slip the dogs the war!!" GG
-"Don't mind Frazzled. He's just Dakka's crazy old dude locked in the attic. He's harmless. Mostly."
-TBone the Magnificent 1999-2014, Long Live the King!
2016/11/14 19:29:50
Subject: Boston Marathon Bombing Movie to star Mark Wahlberg, Kevin Bacon, John Goodman, and JK Simmons
oldravenman3025 wrote: It's in poor taste. No matter the reasoning. But that is just my opinion. Just as with the 9/11 dramas, I'll never watch it.
At least they waited a few years to make a drama film based on the event, as they did with 9/11. I'm grateful for that much.
So, using real life events so close to when they happened, as drama fodder, is unnecessary.
If I am understanding you correctly, the proximity of the event to the present is the cause for the movie being in poor taste, but you also admitted that you'd never watch the movies based on 9/11 (which some of those films are going on 10 years old at this point).
Is there a point in time when a tragedy can receive a film treatment in your opinion or are certain events just untouchable in regards to making a film around them?
I guess it's more of a personal thing. I had acquaintances (via a mutual friend) that went to work in Number One and Number Two World Trade Center that morning, and never got to go home that evening. And a friend (one of my ex's aunts) who is still alive today because she had to run an errand away from her office. She worked for the DoD at the Pentagon in 2001 (now retired).
My mother still can't watch war movies of any kind, ESPECIALLY films set in the Vietnam War (fictional or not). There are friends of hers, and people she went to school with/locals her family knew, whose names are on The Wall. And that was over four decades ago. Desert Sheild/Desert Storm was during the end of my time in the military. The sight of those Iraqi corpses near their positions and vehicles, literally grilled like meat, still bothers me. Back in 2002, a friend of mine who also served in Desert Storm, had some photographs of the remains of dead Iraqi troops, along with blasted vehicles, he took while he was there. He was showing them to us at work. When I saw them, I had to quickly excuse myself to go and puke my guts out. Nowadays, I'm over such extreme reactions. But those images still elicit bad memories.
Time may heal all wounds. But how much time varies. And in many instances, some people never get over something completely. It stays with them.
So, yeah. I guess you can say that proximity may have something to do with molding my opinion. At least, insofar as to how tasteless I may think it is. As for if anything should be off-limits period, I would say no. I'm a firm believer if freedom of speech and expression. I may think to be tasteless to make a buck off of historical tragedies (outside of educational documentaries). But I still believe that people have the right to pursue controversial (or troubling) subjects in film. If it's something that I find distasteful or uncomfortable, I'll simply not watch it. Simple as that. I won't intrude on others rights to view or make such material.
I appreciate the insight into your opinion, thanks for sharing that.
I'd struggle viewing a movie that was related to events where I lost friends/family or experienced extreme trauma so I can understand your position on the 9/11 films or your mother's on Vietnam war films.
That said, I do think a movie can be useful for others who may not have had an immediate connection to an event by allowing them to gain a better understanding of that event through the film. Of course there is a lot that can be said about movies based on historical events being inaccurate, which is a different topic all together and one rife with problems, but in regards to the tastefulness of a movie, as long as it isn't grossly misrepresenting the events (Braveheart), or trying to capitalize on those events in a way that does a disservice to historical record (Bay's Pearl Harbor comes to mind as an emotionally exploitative film which sterilized the events of Pearl Harbor to make an action film) then the film isn't tasteless in my opinion.
2016/11/14 22:04:38
Subject: Boston Marathon Bombing Movie to star Mark Wahlberg, Kevin Bacon, John Goodman, and JK Simmons
feeder wrote: Marky Mark in the lead. Meh. Can anyone name a Marky Mark movie where he has the lead that doesn't suck?
Boogie Nights
Oh, right, I forgot he was in that one. Superb ensemble in that one.
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2016/11/14 23:14:24
Subject: Boston Marathon Bombing Movie to star Mark Wahlberg, Kevin Bacon, John Goodman, and JK Simmons
feeder wrote: Marky Mark in the lead. Meh. Can anyone name a Marky Mark movie where he has the lead that doesn't suck?
You didn't like Planet of the Apes? I'm shocked. Shocked! I say.
Three Kings was great IMO, The Departed as well.
And I like The Other Guys, I don't care what anybody says!
I'd say The Italian Job didn't suck. It was silly, but also fun and filled with an entertaining cast. Three Kings is a good choice, that movie was pretty good. Never saw The Departed. Regardless of how others feel about Seth McFarlane, I thought Ted was a pretty good stoner comedy though the sequel was abysmal.
2016/11/14 23:56:31
Subject: Boston Marathon Bombing Movie to star Mark Wahlberg, Kevin Bacon, John Goodman, and JK Simmons
I appreciate the insight into your opinion, thanks for sharing that.
I'd struggle viewing a movie that was related to events where I lost friends/family or experienced extreme trauma so I can understand your position on the 9/11 films or your mother's on Vietnam war films.
That said, I do think a movie can be useful for others who may not have had an immediate connection to an event by allowing them to gain a better understanding of that event through the film. Of course there is a lot that can be said about movies based on historical events being inaccurate, which is a different topic all together and one rife with problems, but in regards to the tastefulness of a movie, as long as it isn't grossly misrepresenting the events (Braveheart), or trying to capitalize on those events in a way that does a disservice to historical record (Bay's Pearl Harbor comes to mind as an emotionally exploitative film which sterilized the events of Pearl Harbor to make an action film) then the film isn't tasteless in my opinion.
I like Tora! Tora! Tora! myself. It was made from both the perspective of the Japanese and Americans That two scenes toward the end was particularly powerful. The first was Lieutenant Kaminsky's initial reaction to the Japanese-American messenger boy. For a moment, you could see the hate in his face before he managed to come back to reality. The other was Yamamoto's speech to his officers. So Yamamura and Neville Brand pulled those scenes off spectacularly.
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feeder wrote: Marky Mark in the lead. Meh. Can anyone name a Marky Mark movie where he has the lead that doesn't suck?
You didn't like Planet of the Apes? I'm shocked. Shocked! I say.
It was a decent film. I'm more partial toward the original though. It gave us some timeless lines.....
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2016/11/15 00:12:42
Subject: Boston Marathon Bombing Movie to star Mark Wahlberg, Kevin Bacon, John Goodman, and JK Simmons
feeder wrote: Marky Mark in the lead. Meh. Can anyone name a Marky Mark movie where he has the lead that doesn't suck?
You didn't like Planet of the Apes? I'm shocked. Shocked! I say.
Three Kings was great IMO, The Departed as well.
And I like The Other Guys, I don't care what anybody says!
Did not care for Marky Mark and the Wierdly Sexy Monkey Girl.
Haven't seen Three Kings. It appeared to be an Ocean's Eleven with the USA! USA! turned up to 11. Is that a fair assessment?
Departed and Other Guys, both great films. Marky Mark doesn't have the lead there though.
I don't think he's a terrible actor. He just can't carry a film on his own.
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. But it wouldn't be hard for the studios to make this a movie that audiences would eat up.
