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Thoughts on this KDK build for some tanky/shooty action against Orks / Eldar

HQ Chaos Lord with Juggernaut

5 Terminators (for reaper autocannon bonus)

2 x 3 Bikers 3 with meltas Brings it right to 500.

Are there too many points tied up in the Terminators? Their armor save is so nice though! :p Would the auto cannon be worth it? 36" range to possibly nuke the HQs early and/or counter Eldar jetbikes?

Thanks in advance for the input.

At 500 pts of kdk while keeping bound(unbound bugs me a lot).

Just take a Gorepack formation like this :

3 man biker squads with meltas x 2 and melta bombs - 101

3 man biker squads with meltas x 2 and Plasma Pistol - 111

5 man squad of flesh hounds - 80

5 man squad of flesh hounds - 80

8 man squad of flesh hounds - 128

Total - 500

This will crush eldar by getting in their face super fast provided they aren't spamming Scatterbikes(15 + HQ easily fits under 500 for 60 s6 shots at 500pts and let's face it, nothing will beat that at 500 except maybe demons who get first turn). And against orks it's great as long as you don't scout up in their face turn 1 and give them the charge, you charge them and they are only S3.

Aah interesting build. Unfortunately the Eldar army is a total cheese fest and all scatterbikes and warp spiders. He kind of took the fun out of wanting to play against him but we still do. lol

Learned the hard way the other day about the Ork charge. Took out 2 chaos spawn almost instantly. Dooh!

 Thanum wrote:
Aah interesting build. Unfortunately the Eldar army is a total cheese fest and all scatterbikes and warp spiders. He kind of took the fun out of wanting to play against him but we still do. lol

Learned the hard way the other day about the Ork charge. Took out 2 chaos spawn almost instantly. Dooh!

I was honestly that guy for a long time until everyone refused to play games outside tourneys :(

Now I play kdk and demons with eldar on the shelf. And as far as point efficiency goes the only thing I think could beat eldar at 500 would be demons.

Yeah we kind of figured it was going to be an uphill battle when we found him scouring over the 2016 Championship list to pick what army he wanted to play. He now runs all scatter bikes and warp spiders. Takes the fun right out of it.

One of the other guys in our group runs Orks though and those are always fun brawls.

We are raising the army points up to 750 soon as our armies grow. Hopefully that starts to bring a bit of balance with the guy that runs Eldar but he's already said he's just going to add more jetbikes and warpspiders. Maybe some Wrathblades eventually.