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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/16 19:14:39
Subject: Chernobyl disaster: Giant shield begins move towards reactor
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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Work has begun at Chernobyl in Ukraine to move a giant shield over the site of the world's worst nuclear accident.
The concrete and steel arch will eventually cover the remains of the reactor which lost its roof in a catastrophic explosion in 1986.
The blast sent a plume of radioactive material into the air, triggering a public health emergency across Europe.
The shield is designed to prevent further radioactive material leaking out over the next century.
It measures 275m (900ft) wide and 108m (354ft) tall and has cost $1.6bn (£1.3bn) to construct.
The European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD), which is leading the project, describes the arch as the largest moveable land-based structure ever built.
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It began moving on Monday using a system of hydraulic jacks and will take about five days to be put in its final position.
Work will then begin to safely dismantle the reactor, which has been sealed inside a so-called sarcophagus, and to secure the huge amount of radioactive material still inside.
Experts fear that if parts of the reactor collapse inside the sarcophagus, further radioactive material could be released.
The shield, known as the New Safe Confinement, had to be built away from the scene of the accident as the radiation immediately above the reactor is still too intense.
Ukraine's ecology minister, Ostap Semerak, said the start of the operation to cover the reactor was "the beginning of the end of a 30-year long fight with the consequences of the 1986 accident".
"The credit for construction of this one-of-a-kind technological structure goes to an expert team of engineers and builders," he said.
The meltdown and explosion at the Soviet-era plant was the worst nuclear disaster in history, spewing a cloud of radioactive material that drifted into other parts of the then-USSR, including Russia and Belarus, and northern Europe.
The number of people killed remains disputed. A 2005 report by the UN-backed Chernobyl Forum said that fewer than 50 people had died as a result of exposure to radiation, most of them workers killed immediately after the disaster, but some survived until as late as 2004.
The forum estimated that up to 9,000 people could eventually die from radiation exposure, although Greenpeace claims the figure could be as high as 93,000.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37978482
Thought it was quite interesting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 17:10:35
Subject: Chernobyl disaster: Giant shield begins move towards reactor
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Co'tor Shas wrote:Work has begun at Chernobyl in Ukraine to move a giant shield over the site of the world's worst nuclear accident.
The concrete and steel arch will eventually cover the remains of the reactor which lost its roof in a catastrophic explosion in 1986.
The blast sent a plume of radioactive material into the air, triggering a public health emergency across Europe.
The shield is designed to prevent further radioactive material leaking out over the next century.
It measures 275m (900ft) wide and 108m (354ft) tall and has cost $1.6bn (£1.3bn) to construct.
The European Bank for Reconstruction and Development (EBRD), which is leading the project, describes the arch as the largest moveable land-based structure ever built.
Containing the world's worst nuclear accident
Ukraine marks Chernobyl 30th anniversary
In pictures: Chernobyl's eerie exclusion zone
It began moving on Monday using a system of hydraulic jacks and will take about five days to be put in its final position.
Work will then begin to safely dismantle the reactor, which has been sealed inside a so-called sarcophagus, and to secure the huge amount of radioactive material still inside.
Experts fear that if parts of the reactor collapse inside the sarcophagus, further radioactive material could be released.
The shield, known as the New Safe Confinement, had to be built away from the scene of the accident as the radiation immediately above the reactor is still too intense.
Ukraine's ecology minister, Ostap Semerak, said the start of the operation to cover the reactor was "the beginning of the end of a 30-year long fight with the consequences of the 1986 accident".
"The credit for construction of this one-of-a-kind technological structure goes to an expert team of engineers and builders," he said.
The meltdown and explosion at the Soviet-era plant was the worst nuclear disaster in history, spewing a cloud of radioactive material that drifted into other parts of the then-USSR, including Russia and Belarus, and northern Europe.
The number of people killed remains disputed. A 2005 report by the UN-backed Chernobyl Forum said that fewer than 50 people had died as a result of exposure to radiation, most of them workers killed immediately after the disaster, but some survived until as late as 2004.
The forum estimated that up to 9,000 people could eventually die from radiation exposure, although Greenpeace claims the figure could be as high as 93,000.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-37978482
Thought it was quite interesting.
It was inevitable that Reactor #4 would be shielded over. I'm just surprised that the structure that housed it wasn't demolished long before now and sealed over in concrete and lead (as opposed to just the reactor). But I'm no expert on nuclear power generation or reactors.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 17:14:35
Subject: Chernobyl disaster: Giant shield begins move towards reactor
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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Id figure they would of sent in robots to slowly clean up and harvest everything by now.
that death ball of radioactive material has to be worth something no?
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 19:40:13
Subject: Chernobyl disaster: Giant shield begins move towards reactor
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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The old casing was rough and slapped over the building in a rush..
It was as of recently full of holes, decaying and suffering the obvious effect is of being a 30 year old emergency measure.
The new one is long overdue and means they can start to take the power plant down extemely carefully.
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 19:45:42
Subject: Chernobyl disaster: Giant shield begins move towards reactor
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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Desubot wrote:Id figure they would of sent in robots to slowly clean up and harvest everything by now.
that death ball of radioactive material has to be worth something no?
Any sort of demolition is extremely dangerous. They have pushed the more radioactive of the debris into the hole, but beyond that, the chance of sending radioactive debris into the air is enormous. And the "elephant's foot" is still there and very deadly.
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote:Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens BaronIveagh wrote:Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 23:16:09
Subject: Re:Chernobyl disaster: Giant shield begins move towards reactor
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Wait, wait?
Ah, what they mean is that the dome they've been building there for years is now being moved into place to complete the job. The way its described as though this is something which has only just been conceived, at least at face value.
Back when the old Ukraine thread started I remember posting whether the revolution and then the war would've had an effect on the Indian workforce in the Exclusion Zone... #
Don't worry, as it closes over the plant the workers will start talking about a wish granter and the whole place'll be swallowed in one great scientific anomaly. Then the war over there will kick into proper gear. That's been Moscow's plan all along...
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Who's been funding this actually? I assume its not just been the Ukrainians, but an international body considering how detrimental the whole thing is to the whole region. ...Or I could be cynical and assume the reason its taken this long at all is that nobody cares and the money's been siphoned off through corruption. Given the current state of the country its doubtful they'll ever get around to cleaning up all that soil; its some of the most fertile in the world, much the pity.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/17 23:28:22
Subject: Re:Chernobyl disaster: Giant shield begins move towards reactor
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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Wyrmalla wrote:Wait, wait?
Ah, what they mean is that the dome they've been building there for years is now being moved into place to complete the job. The way its described as though this is something which has only just been conceived, at least at face value.
Back when the old Ukraine thread started I remember posting whether the revolution and then the war would've had an effect on the Indian workforce in the Exclusion Zone... #
Don't worry, as it closes over the plant the workers will start talking about a wish granter and the whole place'll be swallowed in one great scientific anomaly. Then the war over there will kick into proper gear. That's been Moscow's plan all along...
Edit:
Who's been funding this actually? I assume its not just been the Ukrainians, but an international body considering how detrimental the whole thing is to the whole region. ...Or I could be cynical and assume the reason its taken this long at all is that nobody cares and the money's been siphoned off through corruption. Given the current state of the country its doubtful they'll ever get around to cleaning up all that soil; its some of the most fertile in the world, much the pity.
It's being funded by the Chernobyl Shelter Fund. Which is controlled by the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development. It's the largest movable building ever, so it's not surprising it has taken so long to build.
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Homosexuality is the #1 cause of gay marriage.
kronk wrote:Every pizza is a personal sized pizza if you try hard enough and believe in yourself.
sebster wrote:Yes, indeed. What a terrible piece of cultural imperialism it is for me to say that a country shouldn't murder its own citizens BaronIveagh wrote:Basically they went from a carrot and stick to a smaller carrot and flanged mace. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/18 07:12:05
Subject: Chernobyl disaster: Giant shield begins move towards reactor
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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I think that such shields should be built before the accident. Alternatively, the reactors should be built underground. And in general, it was necessary to invest more resources to such facilities
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Mordant 92nd 'Acid Dogs'
The Lost and Damned
Inquisition
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/18 13:56:29
Subject: Chernobyl disaster: Giant shield begins move towards reactor
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Monstrous Master Moulder
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I remember back in the 80's most of the robots used for clean up failed, the radioactive waves fried their circuits. Must have been horrible for the workers who had to go into that area with shovels knowing they where going to their death...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/18 14:02:46
Subject: Chernobyl disaster: Giant shield begins move towards reactor
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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Chute82 wrote:I remember back in the 80's most of the robots used for clean up failed, the radioactive waves fried their circuits. Must have been horrible for the workers who had to go into that area with shovels knowing they where going to their death...
Wr have had years to develop new hardened Technology and systems..
Now days we might be able to start slowly clearing it or at least stabilising the building.
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/18 15:35:07
Subject: Re:Chernobyl disaster: Giant shield begins move towards reactor
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Fixture of Dakka
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Did the Japanese use robots to clean up their failed plant? I don't think they did (at least not as a majority of the workforce), despite being on the cutting edge of robotics. They just had old people and regular guys go in there.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/18 23:18:39
Subject: Re:Chernobyl disaster: Giant shield begins move towards reactor
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/18 23:42:27
Subject: Re:Chernobyl disaster: Giant shield begins move towards reactor
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Ragin' Ork Dreadnought
Monarchy of TBD
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World's largest mobile building being built in Chernobyl, huh? And it will conveniently block the site from sight?
Soon.....
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Klawz-Ramming is a subset of citrus fruit?
Gwar- "And everyone wants a bigger Spleen!"
Mercurial wrote:
I admire your aplomb and instate you as Baron of the Seas and Lord Marshall of Privateers.
Orkeosaurus wrote:Star Trek also said we'd have X-Wings by now. We all see how that prediction turned out.
Orkeosaurus, on homophobia, the nature of homosexuality, and the greatness of George Takei.
English doesn't borrow from other languages. It follows them down dark alleyways and mugs them for loose grammar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/19 05:14:43
Subject: Chernobyl disaster: Giant shield begins move towards reactor
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Lone Wolf Sentinel Pilot
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Chute82 wrote:. Must have been horrible for the workers who had to go into that area with shovels knowing they where going to their death...
Most were young soldiers who worked for only 5 minutes to quickly dump radioactive material for earlier return home. At this age, people do not think about the consequences. but those "only 5 minutes" could then become cancer or hereditary diseases.
the worst radioactive exposure was on firefighters who clibled on reactor roof and power plant workers who were turning off power of plant systems after accident.
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The Lost and Damned
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/19 10:07:49
Subject: Chernobyl disaster: Giant shield begins move towards reactor
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Keeper of the Holy Orb of Antioch
avoiding the lorax on Crion
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Freakazoitt wrote: Chute82 wrote:. Must have been horrible for the workers who had to go into that area with shovels knowing they where going to their death...
Most were young soldiers who worked for only 5 minutes to quickly dump radioactive material for earlier return home. At this age, people do not think about the consequences. but those "only 5 minutes" could then become cancer or hereditary diseases.
the worst radioactive exposure was on firefighters who clibled on reactor roof and power plant workers who were turning off power of plant systems after accident.
And ones who dumped sand and such directly into the breach. The hottest, one of the worst places to be in entire disaster.
Done via helicopter when fighting the fire.
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Sgt. Vanden - OOC Hey, that was your doing. I didn't choose to fly in the "Dongerprise'.
"May the odds be ever in your favour"
Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:
I have no clue how Dakka's moderation work. I expect it involves throwing a lot of d100 and looking at many random tables.
FudgeDumper - It could be that you are just so uncomfortable with the idea of your chapters primarch having his way with a docile tyranid spore cyst, that you must deny they have any feelings at all. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/11/19 23:52:53
Subject: Re:Chernobyl disaster: Giant shield begins move towards reactor
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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Jaeger "Ned" Kelly, Kaiju fighter?
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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