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Not really sure if this belong here or alternate history but here it is and here it goes.

I have been reading a lot about bolt action recently for a project I am working on in another part of the forum. Not really important. What is important is that konflikt 47 seems really neat. I am a huge sucker for alternative history wwi wwii. (Tannhauser was my gak) especially if stuff gets wacky.

I read somewhere that K47 uses first edition bolt action rules. Someplace else that it is it's own stand alone game. And someplace else that it's a sort of supplement/in addition to 2nd ed. So... what is it? If someone wanted to play what books would they actually need?

Secondly, is it popular at all? Is it a lot harder to find people willing to play you in k47 then it is in bolt action proper?

K47 is a stand-alone game based on 1st ed. Bolt Action. It's a Weird War 2 game. It's popular in some areas, and you can use existing Bolt Action armies (and their army books) with it.

https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/konflikt-47

It's it's own system, based off of Bolt Action Version 1. It's kind of like Bolt action 1.5. For some asinine reason nobody at Warlord told the K47 team about BA 2.0 so they ended up releasing K47 a month before 2.0 dropped, which really hurt initial interest in some areas. Theyre working on updating it to 2.0 though, and honestly after skimming through both books it wouldnt be too hard to house rule the changes in. It's just annoying that you have to in the first place .

All you would need is the k47 book, it has everything, much like the normal Bolt action book.

No idea on player support though. I've not found a big group for historicals in my area yet so I have no idea if it's taken off elsewhere. People love the models but I've seen very little gameplay discussion. On the bright side, most of your army will be bog standard WWII units, so you'd be able to play regular bolt action fairly easily

I'd imagine that K47's developers were well aware of the impact releasing the game with the old rules would have, but being that the whole release process takes many, many months they couldn't do anything about it. Even if they updated all the rules they'd still need to go to the publishers with the new book to print, which would be in effect starting from scratch.

I didn't pick it up myself. Partly because I'm only just learning Volume 2 of the BA rules, and didn't want to be confused. That and I don't like the setting. I'd have preferred if it'd been alt-history, and done away with all the monsters and crap which seem to be in every game of this type. Not to rant, but I'd have much preferred seeing an alt-history expansion to the regular BA game to include Cold War units and Paper Panzers (which K47 definitely is not given the lack of that type of thing in the book, and instead we have Tesla guns and vampires; something again the market is saturated with. I'm pretty disappointed at this; some of the real world stuff is really hard to find in the right scale, though in the past few months a lot of the Paper Panzer stuff has really taken off - hell someone's doing Hungarian prototype tanks... ).

At my club there's a few players, but the same goes for the regular BA rules. There's other rulesets out there, and its just another thing to split up the player base. Its not the only game on the market in that setting, but all of those failed around here too. The folks who're into WWII play historical and don't want to mix it with sci-fi. The sci-fi and fantasy players don't touch WWII for the reverse reason. :/

So aye, myself I'm using the regular updated core BA rules and adding my own alt-history units to those.

The BA2E debacle killed my already-anemic interest in K47 but the models have proven too tempting.

I plan to pair some panzer infantry up with my Winter Jerries also from WLG. Thinking of doing a kind of proto air force theme for the US, featuring the Mudskipper and the eventually Firefly flying infantry. I am thinking of painting these guys bluish-gray (similar to AT-43 UNA faction) rather than olive drab.

Oh, and not to hijack this thread, but for anyone looking for "real" alt-history tanks, JTFM Enterprises/DieWaffenkammer have started on their After 45 range. So far its some Americans, Brits and now Germans, with Soviets planned. These have just gone up for pre-order today.



Besides that CompanyB also have an E-50/ 75 planned, though JTFM also are working on one.