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With this election of Trump, there have been many on the Alt-Right twitter, White Nationalists etc. that are appropriating Warhammer 40k stuff...for example

calling Trump "God Emperor" and posting alot of far right fanfiction using warhammer 40k images as the storytelling device

GW should come out and say we don't support the use of our property for this, I mean Warhammer 40k already has a reputation as being a "fascist" science fiction universe, from what many outsiders think

Doesn't this fall under free speech, though?

They do the same thing with Dune.

 NInjatactiks wrote:
Doesn't this fall under free speech, though?

Well yeah. GW can't stop them, but it can say "We don't condone this".

40k is its own world, and it has deep roots. I really enjoyed Ian Watson's take in particular, which is more subversive of authority than supportive of it. I think 40k will survive.

I'd worry much more about keeping racism, sexism, and the internet troll attitude out of real-life communities. Trump has not set a high bar for courteous behaviour.

Ehh I googled some photos, they are kind of funny.

GW, being a British company, and mostly adverse to being on the internet, is probably unaware of the activities and thusly doesn't care.

Free Speech doesn't necessarily cover the use of someone else's IP, however, to say whatever it is you're going to say. Really depends on the specifics of when/how/where it is used, though.

LightKing wrote:
With this election of Trump, there have been many on the Alt-Right twitter, White Nationalists etc. that are appropriating Warhammer 40k stuff...for example

calling Trump "God Emperor" and posting alot of far right fanfiction using warhammer 40k images as the storytelling device

GW should come out and say we don't support the use of our property for this, I mean Warhammer 40k already has a reputation as being a "fascist" science fiction universe, from what many outsiders think

I think GW has taken the appropriate response to this. Ignore it. The "alt right" (Which consists of people from all walks of life) as you call them, have made memes & references to pretty much every fan fiction out there. If there are potential customers put off from purchasing 40k products as a result of being triggered by an image of the emperor with Trumps face on it... they are in for a rough life.

Or another idea maybe not take something so seriously that's meant to be a joke? This Thread and topic is pretty ridiculous if you ask me and to be honest I've seen more violent and hate come from the left then the right over the course of this election.

The god Emperor Trump picture is pretty great.

Are you triggered by my avatar, LightKing ?
Of course GW should do nothing.
Speaking about free speech, alt right etc on a 40k sub forum...

Saw one of him in a commissar uniform titled filthy xenos. Made me laugh.
But yeah all GW can realistically do (if they are even bothered/care) is to say we dont endorse our IP being associated with etc.

I forsee exactly zero communication from them on this (and cant say I really blame them tbh).

I find it kind of funny that people would actually compare Trump with the emperor to SUPPORT him. But I'm a Chaosplayer so what do I know about what's desirable about the imperium

The 'alt-right' is a useless and disingenuous term coined by tiggered extreme-left moral authoritarians to discredit those who disagree with their agenda. Moderate and sane liberals fall under this umbrella simply for not going along with the outrage culture being pedaled by these idiots.

Let the people meme in peace. Nobody cares if you're offended.

Hmm, yeah. Now we cant make Trump jokes in 40K anymore because you're triggered? Seriously what the hell happened to some peoples sense of humor. Did it commit suicide... or it wasn't there in the first place and they faked the entire time.

Last time I checked we were not Spain... trying to ban Memes and internet jokes.

Anyway... if Trump was portrayed as the Emperor... wouldn't it mean he'll get killed... by someone he knows well...



Seriously what the hell happened to some peoples sense of humor. Did it commit suicide... or it wasn't there in the first place and they faked the entire time.

It's also not covered by free speech. It's covered by satire. Someones IP has no legal right to stop someone from cracking wise.

MarsNZ wrote:The 'alt-right' is a useless and disingenuous term coined by tiggered extreme-left moral authoritarians to discredit those who disagree with their agenda. Moderate and sane liberals fall under this umbrella simply for not going along with the outrage culture being pedaled by these idiots.

Let the people meme in peace. Nobody cares if you're offended.

This.

The Grumpy Eldar wrote:Anyway... if Trump was portrayed as the Emperor... wouldn't it mean he'll get killed... by someone he knows well...

I guess Pence would be Horus in that scenario but he's a pretty solid guy. (although that's probably what the emperor said...)

 Scott-S6 wrote:

The Grumpy Eldar wrote:Anyway... if Trump was portrayed as the Emperor... wouldn't it mean he'll get killed... by someone he knows well...

I guess Pence would be Horus in that scenario but he's a pretty solid guy. (although that's probably what the emperor said...)

Lol.. the guy who doesn't believe in science. Thinks women should carry dead fetuses to term. And is all around a bigger and worse racists, sexist, monster than Trump could hope to be.

Yup. Pence is a pretty solid guy.

Didn't you see this from the Warhammer 40,000 Facebook page?

'Politics are overrated.
If you really want to see change, embrace the power of Chaos.'

https://www.facebook.com/1575682476085719/photos/a.1576243776029589.1073741828.1575682476085719/1718124025174896/?type=3&theater

This thread's a pretty handy tool for discovering who's a dill weed.

It can only get worse from here on in.....

"There is a point where we needed to stop and we have clearly passed it but let’s keep going and see what happens" - meme

All aboard!

 Lance845 wrote:

Lol.. the guy who doesn't believe in science. Thinks women should carry dead fetuses to term. And is all around a bigger and worse racists, sexist, monster than Trump could hope to be.

Yup. Pence is a pretty solid guy.

Not someone who is a high risk of leading a coup though

XT-1984 wrote:
Didn't you see this from the Warhammer 40,000 Facebook page?

'Politics are overrated.
If you really want to see change, embrace the power of Chaos.'

https://www.facebook.com/1575682476085719/photos/a.1576243776029589.1073741828.1575682476085719/1718124025174896/?type=3&theater

And the Reply...
"Typically a Red State, Prospero could be seen as a Battleground this Election"

 The Grumpy Eldar wrote:
Hmm, yeah. Now we cant make Trump jokes in 40K anymore because you're triggered? Seriously what the hell happened to some peoples sense of humor. Did it commit suicide... or it wasn't there in the first place and they faked the entire time.

Last time I checked we were not Spain... trying to ban Memes and internet jokes.

Anyway... if Trump was portrayed as the Emperor... wouldn't it mean he'll get killed... by someone he knows well...



Seriously what the hell happened to some peoples sense of humor. Did it commit suicide... or it wasn't there in the first place and they faked the entire time.

Yes.

Ehh I googled some photos, they are kind of funny.

Yes.

The 'alt-right' is a useless and disingenuous term coined by tiggered extreme-left moral authoritarians to discredit those who disagree with their agenda. Moderate and sane liberals fall under this umbrella simply for not going along with the outrage culture being pedaled by these idiots.

Let the people meme in peace. Nobody cares if you're offended.

And yes.

It's just a meme bro.

Are you sure it's Trump supporters who are equating Trump to Imperium stuff?

Given the lore about WH40k's Imperium, shouldn't it be people who hate Trump that are making these references?

MarsNZ wrote:The 'alt-right' is a useless and disingenuous term coined by tiggered extreme-left moral authoritarians to discredit those who disagree with their agenda. Moderate and sane liberals fall under this umbrella simply for not going along with the outrage culture being pedaled by these idiots.

Let the people meme in peace. Nobody cares if you're offended.

Scott-S6 wrote:

MarsNZ wrote:The 'alt-right' is a useless and disingenuous term coined by tiggered extreme-left moral authoritarians to discredit those who disagree with their agenda. Moderate and sane liberals fall under this umbrella simply for not going along with the outrage culture being pedaled by these idiots.

Let the people meme in peace. Nobody cares if you're offended.

Two new people for my ignore list.
I suggest you actually educate yourselves before talking about the alt-right, because not a single goddamned thing you said is correct.

 Nazrak wrote:
This thread's a pretty handy tool for discovering who's a dill weed.

Indeed - take an exalt.


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 Pouncey wrote:
Are you sure it's Trump supporters who are equating Trump to Imperium stuff?

Given the lore about WH40k's Imperium, shouldn't it be people who hate Trump that are making these references?

An excellent point...

I am of the group that can't believe people don't find this stuff funny. I mean - it's just so dang funny.

 Kanluwen wrote:

MarsNZ wrote:The 'alt-right' is a useless and disingenuous term coined by tiggered extreme-left moral authoritarians to discredit those who disagree with their agenda. Moderate and sane liberals fall under this umbrella simply for not going along with the outrage culture being pedaled by these idiots.

Let the people meme in peace. Nobody cares if you're offended.

Scott-S6 wrote:

MarsNZ wrote:The 'alt-right' is a useless and disingenuous term coined by tiggered extreme-left moral authoritarians to discredit those who disagree with their agenda. Moderate and sane liberals fall under this umbrella simply for not going along with the outrage culture being pedaled by these idiots.

Let the people meme in peace. Nobody cares if you're offended.

Two new people for my ignore list.
I suggest you actually educate yourselves before talking about the alt-right, because not a single goddamned thing you said is correct.

I don't have a dog in this fight.
I don't actually give a feth that people are making images about trump being the empy.

On the other I find it absolutely hilarious to see how the left is the new right