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Hey dakka, what is the better to supplement Space Wolves and Deathwatch?

On the knight, I was thinking battle cannon and gatling cannon to supplement space wolves kinda bad shooting and Deathwatch's lack of long rang, plus it provides a threat to harasser units due to stomps, but I am very open when it comes to loadouts

On the Dread, I am thinking melta and chain fists to kill anything large and made of metal.

How should I run either one? what will they accomplish well? Which do you advise more? I generally only play for fun, but I like my lists to be strong so rule of cool does apply, but I am mostly stuck in the middle here...

It seems that one fills a gap and one patches a hole, the leviathan patches my lack of anti super heavy, while the knight fills in a lack of long rage fire.

Thank you for your help!

~Mikey

I don't know too much about Imperial Knights, but I can tell you know that the Leviation is scary as hell.

I go for either a Melta Cannon and Claw or Chainfist and Claw and pretty much always in a drop pod. This thing will kill Imperial Knights, Baneblades, any Dreadnought, and most every fortification that you'll see in casual play in two turns if you roll well.

I'll leave adding the argument for the Knights for an experience Knight player.

My biggest issue with the leviathan dread is that its still subject to the vehicle damage table. It's weapon options are fantastic though.

Was in a tournament a couple of weeks back where the winning player took 2 leviathans + a deredeo. Scary things.
Over the course of 5 games, he lost only a single leviathan.

I settled on the Leviathan, it looks much cooler and I could take it home easier

Any tactical advice with using it? How can I cover its advance and make sure it kills some stuff before it dies?

Also, are the rules online? There is a entry for HH too, so does it use that one or the PDF online?

Thanks!
~Mikey

Lucius pattern drop pod. Best way to take dreadnoughts of any flavour these days.

I think the leviathans 40k rules are still a free PDF on the forgeworld site.
While it's 30k rules have been rolled into HH book 6. No longer freely available.

Lucius does nothing for the Leviathan. Just take the regular pod.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Lucius does nothing for the Leviathan. Just take the regular pod.

They do have to shoot at the lucius drop pod first before they can even target the leviathan on the turn it arrives

Indeed. It gives the leviathan a 3 HP AV12 shrouded bunker to hide in on the turn it drops.
Next turn it's free to hop out of the pod and start ripping things apart.

Yeah I own the HH book with the rules in it, I think they are mostly the same but in the HH book its 15 points cheaper so I'll be using the free FW rules

I run mine with a storm cannons and claw. Being that you have to charge what you shoot at, and a single leviathan can rip apart mid-tier to lower-high tier death stars, is rather fire 6 str 7 ap3 shots at BS5 than shorter range shots meant for vehicles killing.

Storm Shields can be a pain against the leviathan in cc, so why not whittle the squad down with dakka and HFs, before you cut everything to pieces. I mean anything short of a Kytan is probably just going to get blended by the leviathan if even ever so gently touched by its xlaws.

And yrs, the luscious pod helps a great deal, but it's 4 up invuln has been working well enough to where I don't pod it in unless I'm staring down a baneblade or D weapons welding GCs.