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Hey guys,

So I`ve been playing in a very casual, non-competitive environment for about a year - and have no desire to change that. That said first, I lose A LOT. To ALL the things. My buddies try to give me tips, some of them even play my lists i made for that day to show me different stuff - so we`re working on the tactics.

What i would like to know is, how good is the list i revised really? As previously stated, the "hardcore cheese" is out of the question for me, since we dont generally do that. But a little cheese would be fine.

I like the Black legion fluff, and i always try to keep my lists somehow fluffy. Of course this all might change with the new Codex (supplement?) coming out, but i would like to get some different opinions from my buds. I have no "real" limitations for this, except maybe modelcount - I dont have them all yet. Also i dislike the idea of allying my CSM with all the gak. If i wanted to play that gak, i would have in the first place. Daemons are OK though.

quick sidenote: the guys have almost solely been playing standard CAD. im trying to get them to play formations, for fancy 1st turn teleportation/Raptor claw shenanigans. Mostly Marines/Eldar/Grey Knights/Dork Angels/Tyranids

The 3 sorcs would go into the... Sorcerer Conclave? (im away from my codices atm) the one where you can make the enemy shoot itself. top kek all around.

If they should decide formations are for dweeps (well... some things are hard to change!) I would generally drop the cheapest sorc for my hellbrute because i love that model so much.

HQ__
- Sorcerer 130pts
2x additional mastery lvl
Force Stave
Spell Familiar

- Sorcerer 130pts
2x additional mastery lvl
Force Stave
Spell Familiar

- Sorcerer 105 pts
1x additional mastery lvl
Force Stave
Spell Familiar

HQChoice.
- Sorverer 105 pts
1x addition mastery lvl
Spell Familiar
Warlod

Troops__

9x CSM 180 pts
2x Plasma gun
Champion naked

9x CSM 180 pts
2x Plasma gun
Champion naked

4x Chosen with Flamer 155 points
Champion with Powerfist
Chaos Rhino


Fast Attack___

2x Chaos Bikers 149 pts
2x Meltagun
Champion with combi-melta and Powerfist

1x Heldrake 170 pts
Baleflamer


Heavy Support___

1x Obliterator with MoN 79 pts
1x Obliterator with MoN 79 pts

so i THINK that this is one of the more competitive lists I´ve build thus far... that being said i would like to hear what I`ve done wrong or right - Let`s make Chaos great again

Edit1: Dropped a MoN Oblit for a 4th HQ sorc.

You can put the three sorcerors into a conclave, but you will still need another HQ to run the CAD

Basic stuff, really. and there I was, rereading my list 5 times, thinking I´ve got at least THAT right. Thanks for the swift response

Don't give the power fist to our chosen champion, give it to one of the regular guys so e doesn't get eaten in a challenge.

 Intercessor wrote:
Don't give the power fist to our chosen champion, give it to one of the regular guys so e doesn't get eaten in a challenge.

Well the plan was for the CSM squads to just sit on objectives and shoot stuff, and the chosen to light something up, and then possibly beat stuff with the fist. Is it that overpriced for a "regular" champ?