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With the new rules from Traitors Legions finally we can play the Legions like the BG!

Death Guard now is awesome, but the great debate is: Plague Marines or not Plague Marines? Well, thanks to the new rules every marines is a plague marines!

The biggest weakness of this list is I haven't OS...................... what do you think?

++ CSM The Purge ++

+ HQ +

········Typhus

+ Elites +

········6x Chosen [Autocannon, Mark of Nurgle, Chemical Flamer, Plasma gun, Veterans of the Long War]
············Chosen Champion [Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon, Melta Bombs]

········6x Chosen [Autocannon, Mark of Nurgle, Chemical Flamer, Plasma gun, Veterans of the Long War]
············Chosen Champion [Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon, Melta Bombs]

+ Heavy Support +

············Chaos Rapier Weapons Battery
················Chaos Rapier [Laser Destroyer]
············Chaos Rapier Weapons Battery
················Chaos Rapier [Laser Destroyer]

············Chaos Rapier Weapons Battery
················Chaos Rapier [Laser Destroyer]
············Chaos Rapier Weapons Battery
················Chaos Rapier [Laser Destroyer]

········6x Havocs [4x Autocannon, Mark of Nurgle, Veterans of the Long War]
············Aspiring Champion [Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon]

········6x Havocs [4x Missile Launcher, Mark of Nurgle, Veterans of the Long War]
············Aspiring Champion [Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon]

+ Fortification +

········Aegis Defense Line

++ CSM Black Crusade Detachment ++

+ Core +

········The Lost and the Damned
············Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion, 34x Cultists]
············Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion, 9x Cultists]
············Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion, 9x Cultists]
············Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion, 9x Cultists]
············Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion, 9x Cultists]
············Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion, 9x Cultists]
············Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion, 9x Cultists]
············Dark Apostle [Power Maul]

+ Auxiliary +

········Spawn
············Chaos Spawn [Spawn]

..
If you made the cultists alpha legion .. they could infiltrate.

Captyn_Bob wrote:
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If you made the cultists alpha legion .. they could infiltrate.

Awesome! Thank you! An Alpha Legion Cult zombified by Typhus

Update


++ CSM Death Guard Vectorium ++

+ Core +

Chaos Warband

········Typhus

············3x Chaos Bikers [Mark of Nurgle, 2x Meltagun, Veterans of the Long War]
················Chaos Biker Champion [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Melta Bombs]

············4x Chaos Space Marines [Chaos Rhino, Mark of Nurgle, Meltagun, Veterans of the Long War]
················Aspiring Champion [Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon, Melta Bombs]

············4x Chaos Space Marines [Chaos Rhino, Mark of Nurgle, Meltagun, Veterans of the Long War]
················Aspiring Champion [Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon, Melta Bombs]

············2x Chaos Terminators [Mark of Nurgle, Veterans of the Long War]
················Chaos Terminator [Combi-plasma, Power Maul]
················Chaos Terminator [Combi-plasma, Power Maul]
················Terminator Champion [Combi-plasma, Power Axe]

············4x Havocs [4x Lascannon, Mark of Nurgle, Veterans of the Long War]
················Aspiring Champion [Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon]

············4x Havocs [4x Autocannon, Mark of Nurgle, Veterans of the Long War]
················Aspiring Champion [Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon]

············4x Havocs [4x Autocannon, Mark of Nurgle, Veterans of the Long War]
················Aspiring Champion [Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon]

+ Auxiliary +

········Chaos Spawn [Mark of Nurgle]

++ CSM Black Crusade Detachment [Alpha Legion] ++

+ Core +

········The Lost and the Damned
············29x Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion]
············19x Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion]
············9x Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion]
············9x Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion]
············9x Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion]
············9x Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion]
············9x Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion]
············Dark Apostle [Power Maul, Veterans of the Long War]

+ Auxiliary +

············Chaos Spawn

Looks super solid.
Might be worth trimming some stuff to get the Dark apostle the mindveil. The ability to leave combat and recharge again is pretty cool.


So the black crusade detachment gets you hatred Imperium on all those cultists.. not bad. and hatred within 6" of the apostle anyway and a boon a turn free, which the dark apostle can re-roll,

one 4+ roll to get cultists back.. sound.. all infiltrating with SNP, fearless, fnp but only 1 ccw. Sound. Not obsec, but all the death guard stuff is, which is great.

The only awkward thing is the apostle can't infiltrate too.
well. the AL warlord traits are pretty good and Typhus's... isn't. So he may be the better choice.

Not sure how Typhus can effect cultists not taken in his own detachment.

Typhus rule still refers to army, not detachment.

Final update

++ CSM Death Guard Vectorium ++

+ Core +

Chaos Warband

········Typhus

············3x Chaos Bikers [Mark of Nurgle, 2x Meltagun, Veterans of the Long War]
················Chaos Biker Champion [Bolt Pistol, Close Combat Weapon, Melta Bombs]

············4x Chaos Space Marines [Chaos Rhino, Mark of Nurgle, Meltagun, Veterans of the Long War]
················Aspiring Champion [Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon, Melta Bombs]

············4x Chaos Space Marines [Chaos Rhino, Mark of Nurgle, Meltagun, Veterans of the Long War]
················Aspiring Champion [Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon, Melta Bombs]

············2x Chaos Terminators [Mark of Nurgle, Veterans of the Long War]
················Chaos Terminator [Combi-plasma, Power Maul]
················Chaos Terminator [Combi-plasma, Power Maul]
················Terminator Champion [Combi-plasma, Power Fist]

············4x Havocs [4x Lascannon, Mark of Nurgle, Veterans of the Long War]
················Aspiring Champion [Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon]

············4x Havocs [4x Autocannon, Mark of Nurgle, Veterans of the Long War]
················Aspiring Champion [Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon]

············4x Havocs [4x Autocannon, Mark of Nurgle, Veterans of the Long War]
················Aspiring Champion [Boltgun, Close Combat Weapon]

+ Auxiliary +

········Chaos Spawn [Mark of Nurgle]

++ CSM Black Crusade Detachment [Alpha Legion] ++

+ Core +

········The Lost and the Damned
············29x Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion]
············9x Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion]
············9x Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion]
············9x Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion]
············9x Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion]
············9x Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion]
············9x Chaos Cultists [Cultist Champion]
············Dark Apostle [Power Maul, Mindveil, Veterans of the Long War]

+ Auxiliary +

············Chaos Spawn

Thank you Captyn_Bob!

Can someone explain to me how the Alpha Legion Lost and Dammed is being used as a core here? In the book it is listed as a Aux.

panzers wrote:

Can someone explain to me how the Alpha Legion Lost and Dammed is being used as a core here? In the book it is listed as a Aux.

It's because he's running the Black Crusade detachment from Traitors Hate using the Alpha Legion detachment requirements. It's a core under that detachment.

Yeah, the only core formation AL has access to is the insurgency "decurion" one afaik

UncleanOne wrote:

panzers wrote:

Can someone explain to me how the Alpha Legion Lost and Dammed is being used as a core here? In the book it is listed as a Aux.

It's because he's running the Black Crusade detachment from Traitors Hate using the Alpha Legion detachment requirements. It's a core under that detachment.

I guess I'm still confused.

So I get the DG detachment. It fulfills all of the requirements. He uses a Chaos Warband as a Core and then spawn as the Aux.

What I'm not understanding is how the Alpha Legion insurgency force is set up here. The book says it needs 1+ Core and 1+ Aux to work. The only Core I see listed in the book for AL is another Chaos Warband. Lost and Damned is listed as a Aux. So Isn't his AL force broken at this point b/c it contains 2 Aux instead of 1 Core and 1 Aux?

Just trying to make sure I understand the rule for when I put my army together...

Thanks!

He's not using the alpha Legion detachment from the Traitor Legions book. If you read the rules for making an Alpha Legion it says "any detachment " can be alpha Legion if you follow the restrictions (no marks, free VotLW). So you could simply have an Alpha Legion CAD.

What he did was use the Black Crusade Detachment from Traitors Hate (NOT Traitor Legions) which is not Legion specific and is using it with the Alpha Legion rules. He gets the bonuses from that, not the one in the Traitor Legios.