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I doubt the book is going to completely overwrite the Codexes any more than Khorne Daemonkin deleted Tzeentch/Nurgle/Slaanesh from the CSM/Daemon books. I suspect you'll be able to use the existing content alongside it, if only so GW can make people keep buying two books.

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blaktoof wrote:
It's an update of the previous codex. The old codex is no longer valid.

KDK is a different faction than CSM.

Would you be okay with your opponent telling you they are going to use a different edition of the brb for their models so they could charge from reserves/infiltration? Has the same level of validity.

Invalid rules which have an update are still invalid rules.


This is 7th. There are quite a lot of units printed concurrently in different books that don't clearly overwrite the previous one. I'd argue that this book is a supplement that updates specific dataslates in existing books without overwriting the entire Codex, unless you're arguing that they're squatting PAGK, Paladins, GK HQ units, GK Rhinos/Razorbacks, Deathwatch ground vehicles, HQ, Terminators, Bikes, and Jump units, Inquisitorial Rhinos, Kataphrons, Electro-Priests, and Kastelan bots at the same time.

Somehow I doubt they're going to squat half the AdMech Christmas box right after releasing it.


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 Pouncey wrote:
...Callousness is an adjective, not a verb.


'Callousness' is a noun, thank you very much. 'Callous' is an adjective, 'callously' is an adverb, I don't know if there's a verb form.

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 Pouncey wrote:
Martel732 wrote:
Guitar players develop a callus, not a callous.

Callous is an adjective, callus is the noun. They both come from the same root. Callousness is also a noun, but it is derived from callous, not callus.


I'll admit that I don't use that word often, so I may be wrong.

However, the sentence, "That is a level of stupidity indistinguishable from malice in its callous," seems very wrong to my mind.


I'm trying to work through that one. It seems to be utterly missing the point of the distinction between stupidity and malice (you can get the same effects out of the two, but since they're descriptions of motives that's sort of irrelevant), but if you wanted to make it make grammatical sense swapping 'callous' for 'callousness' is the short way to do it. Another would be "That is a level of stupidity so indistinguishable from malice that it's callous", but at that point you're changing the meaning from equating malice with stupidity to calling that particular level of stupidity callous.

Either way it's an odd abstract sentiment that doesn't have much to do with the discussion.
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 Gunzhard wrote:
nekooni wrote:
 Gunzhard wrote:
nekooni wrote:
 Gunzhard wrote:
nekooni wrote:
GK and DW aren't replaced by the new book, but SoB and Inquisition are. Their entire army lists are in there.


I agree with this assessment, but as it's not "officially stated" anywhere I can already see a Sky is Falling moment ahead...

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Codex-Adepta-Sororitas-eBook-Edition
"officially stated".


I still don't see that being clarified here... what am I missing?


"The rules in this eBook are also available in Codex: Imperial Agents, fully revised and updated along with new detachments plus rules for adding even more servants of the Emperor to your army."

That part.


If that is taken at face value, then, GK and DW ARE indeed replaced by the new book. That statement is a throw-away I'm afraid.


I'm still confused as to how you're trying to argue that RAI they're squatting everything in the Cult Mechanicus Codex at the same time they're putting out a big Christmas launch.
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Bartali wrote:
 Stormonu wrote:
Bleh, if someone wants to force me to use this book, they can buy it for me, otherwise I'll use the books I already have.

Was there actually any changes to Grey Knights or were the units just reproduced in the new book?


If you're a competitive GK player that plays in an environment that allows unlimited detachments, then it's an essential purchase.
Deamonhunter Strike Force is 1x Terminator Squad OR 1x Interceptor Squad with optional Heavy.

A GK 1850 tournament list (as long as detachments/formations aren't limited) will likely involve 5x DSF with an Interceptor Squad and NDK in each; and an Imperial Knight


Not sure if it's that much of an upgrade over the NSF (1x HQ/1x Troops mandatory, 2x HS optional).
 
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