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Hi everyone. My gaming group has recently decided to get into HH after years of 40k and we have been building armies over the past couple of months. We intend to start playing regularly in the new year, starting at 1,000 points and building from there.

I have two possible lists that I'd like comments on if possible. I'm not necessarily looking to be ultra competitive at this level, but some general pointers/critiques would be nice. Here goes:

List 1

Iron Hands
The head of the gorgon rite of war

HQ
Legion centurion (delegatus) with combi-weapon, artificer armour, cyber familiar, melta bombs, refractor field and volkite serpenta

Elites
Apothecary with artificer armour x2

Troops
Legion tactical squad with vexila and sergeant with artificer armour and combi-weapon (15 marines total)

Legion tactical squad with vexila and sargeant with artificer armour and combi-weapon (15 marines total)

Heavy
Legion heavy support squad with volkite culverin (7 marines total).

It Would be nice to find 10 points to give the sergeant artificer amour (I may change one of the tactical squad sergeants to power armour instead). Alternatively could I use a squad with graviton guns as I'm low on anti tank - not sure that'll be too much of an issue at this points level; or is there a better option for 245-odd points?

Relic whirlwind scorpius (I also have a Sicaran it might be nice to find the points for)


List 2

Death Guard
The reaping rite of war

HQ
Marshal Durak Rask. Goes with heavy support squad

Elites
Legion rapier weapons battery x2

Troops
Legion tactical squad with vexila and sergeant with artificer armour and combi-flamer with Chem-munitions (15 marines total)

Legion tactical squad with vexila and sergeant with artificer armour and combi-flamer with Chem-munitions (15 marines total)

Heavy
Legion heavy support squad with 10 missile launchers and sergeant with an augury scanner

Thanks in advance!

I play Raven Guard and will be moving into shattered legions and getting my own Iron Hands force, so I'm biased #1. #2, having guys shoot at you with -1 strength is awesome! I would definitely suggest the sicaran over a graviton gun support squad. That weapon is a heavy weapon AND blast so you can't move and shoot it, even snap firing. The volkite culverins should do pretty well at 1000 and moving up they will be great anti-infantry/light armor firepower boss.

As far as the Death guard, what are the rapier weapons? laser destroyers? Heavy bolters? The ever-present quad mortar? List looks solid. Two big blocks of marines and missiles to support. Maybe split to 2 squads of 5 to split up fire?

my 2 cents