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Made in us
Powerful Phoenix Lord





Dallas area, TX

So I am not a fan of Failcast, I mean Finecrap, I mean Finecast. I need plastic 2 LoCs for the Oracles formation.

Within GW options, what alternatives do you suggest? I would also like cheap options no more than $30 per model and conversions are perfect as long as most of the model is GW.
These are for 40K, but I have always found Warhammer/AoS models to work perfectly for Daemons

Currently my favorite option is the Morghasts. 2 for $60 is a nice deal and the 'Egyptian motif' is very Tzeentch-like. I can easily make their glaives into staffs
My issue with them is that their wings are not feathered, which means either more $ invested buying wings, or tons of green-stuff work.
Although greenstuffing beaks on them would be easy as cake for me.
I've also looked as the Empire Griffons and the High Elf (Aelf?) Phoenix. While both would be great starting points, they are too expensive for my taste and would still require more work.

So what do you think? Morghasts with beaks and the "ghostly" areas painted like fire, or something else that I have over looked?

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Made in au
Hardened Veteran Guardsman




Australia

You could use a Transformers action figure; they are sort of lords of change.
Maybe a modified figure from the Beast era?
   
Made in us
Powerful Phoenix Lord





Does anyone do a "notLord of Change" kind of figure? Are you trying to avoid all resins?

I'd assume that somebody like Mierce Miniatures or Scibor or something would do their own version of the guy. With Tzeentch being the "thing" now with Thousand Sons it may also be worth waiting to see if a new plastic kit is on the way.
   
Made in nz
Longtime Dakkanaut





New Zealand

Morghasts certainly seem the simplest GW choice in your price range, so long as they're not too small (they're on 60mm bases, and would probably look a bit lost on anything bigger, even if you reposed the wings to spread a bit more).

+1 for beaks.

I agree the non-feathery 'tattered' wings aren't ideal for the classic Tzeentch look, if that's important to you (although fluff-wise a Lord of Change can look like anything it damned well wants to, and doubtlessly changes from moment to moment anyway ). Yes, feathering them _convincingly_ would be stupidly tedious. But relatively easy to fill the holes for reptilian wings instead? Or just add enough green-stuff detail for them to be painted as fiery wings?

A shame that GW has discontinued Tomb Kings, as that had several nice birdy monsters. You just might get lucky and pick up something second-hand?
   
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Gargantuan Gargant





New Bedford, MA USA



That looks amazing to me. I might just pick up a set of them to have some summonable Lords of Change on hand.

   
Made in us
Powerful Phoenix Lord





Dallas area, TX

Thanks for the replies!

I've started getting some bits together for this. After looking at the current LoC model, I realized that it actually isn't that big. It mostly just has big wings, big hands, a big head and long robes. The body itself is not bigger than a Spawn or mid-sized AoS creature unit.
So while the Morghasts are the simplest and would look good, they are a bit big in the body.

So I got some feathered wings from a Reaper miniature and I'm going to use these for the bodies:
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Flesh-Eater-Courts-Crypt-Haunter-Courtier

I will add Egyptian like bladed staffs, courtesy of Necron Warscythes, bits of flowing material, and finally long necks with feathered beaked heads that look like this:
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ezlR7eukcsE/V9RASkEPhaI/AAAAAAAABW8/yGOVk1rWD9k7w47lTFCSFrxKBkO2hERzwCLcB/s1600/Screamers.jpg.

And a bonus to getting that Flesh-eater court AoS box is that it comes with 3 models for only $50. I only need 2 LoC so I can convert the 3rd figure as a Daemon Prince, just like I did for my Belakor model:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-h8wnu715Lzs/VJGp5RoZKqI/AAAAAAAABDM/6fnV4_5vUow/s1600/Belakor.jpg

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Made in us
Powerful Phoenix Lord





Dallas area, TX

The paint job is rough so far, just based the skin and feathers. Lots of washes and drybrushing to go before I even start on the detail work.
But this is what I have so far:


   
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Blood-Raging Khorne Berserker





Pittsburgh, PA

Those morghast conversions are ace!
   
 
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