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My 30 gargoyle in the broods just crispy by AM group of flamer..

4 flamer burn into my gargoyle brood but it only can reach 13 in the total... got 37 wounds and wipe out my brood. He said random wounds allocating allow to do that.. is that true? Because my rear line of gargoyle are 12" away and it look silly that flamer burn my whole 18"x18" scale brood..

The game was already finish as I am listen to him but I would like to know for future reference.

Read the "Out of range" section in the rulebook, pg35, that covers all you need to know.

The short answer is no, the flamer killzone is limited to the template range, if he can only touch 13 with his template(s) then only 13 can possibly have wounds allocated to them. excess wounds are lost.

I assume he was right on top of them to get 37 total hits though? That seems absurd.

I think your friend is right (however I don't see what random allocation of wounds has to do with it).

While it's true that wounds created from a shooting weapon cannot be allocated to models that are out of the weapon's range, template weapon do not have a finite range. The physical plastic template has a finite range, but the rule never says anything about using its size for anything; it's just used to count the number of hits.

Your problem only arises when a given unit fires multiple template weapons at the same time. The "multiple templates" section of the template special rule specifies that you first record the total number of hits from all the templates before rolling to wound, which is what your friend did I presume.

Overheal wrote:The short answer is no, the flamer killzone is limited to the template range, if he can only touch 13 with his template(s) then only 13 can possibly have wounds allocated to them. excess wounds are lost.

I assume he was right on top of them to get 37 total hits though? That seems absurd.

It's 44 autohits then 37 success wound.

fresus wrote:I think your friend is right (however I don't see what random allocation of wounds has to do with it).

While it's true that wounds created from a shooting weapon cannot be allocated to models that are out of the weapon's range, template weapon do not have a finite range. The physical plastic template has a finite range, but the rule never says anything about using its size for anything; it's just used to count the number of hits.

Your problem only arises when a given unit fires multiple template weapons at the same time. The "multiple templates" section of the template special rule specifies that you first record the total number of hits from all the templates before rolling to wound, which is what your friend did I presume.

Yeah he shoot at same time. Torrent. He find which have most number of model that touch template ( 11 ) then it's 11x4 = 44 hit.
I hate that pipe that grant flamer special rule!

Mrhappyface
Thank for rulebook page number.