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couple of questions

I need a good snow flock and would like to know out of Army Painter, Woodland Scenics, or Galeforce 9 which one would be better for a big fluffy snow?

Also once I figure out which one I'm going with I've seen anything from using the Woodland Scenics Flex Paste, to Elmers glue, to other fancy glues. What are the pros and cons of each and are there any other suggestions anyone might have?

Thanks again- Austin
   
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what are you using it for - bases? other terrain?

One reason I'm asking is the small tins of snow stuffs can get expensive to use for a lot of terrain, but it's not bad for bases.

I've used the Galeforce9, not used the other's and I've made homemade stuffs. For big terrain projects, it's cheaper to mix it up imo.

If you want big snow drifts, you might think about using something like a silicon caulk, gesso, or other filler medium (spackle for instance) under the snow, then use the snow on top.

As for PVAs, I just use what I've to hand, or what's on sale - usually I get the Elmers. I don't personally think the woodland scenics versions are that good or necessary to buy, anything they can do I can do with watered down PVA and time. And the durability of it is better imo, overall.

Anyway just my two cents.

   
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It's for bases mostly. Ranging from skitarii ranger, ironstrider ballistari, to imperial knight titan. So need quite a lot I would think. Also I'll be placing some very small tufts of snow on the model themselves. Having another person confirm using PVA glue makes me less hesitant, thank you.

   
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Woodland Scenics all the way. The only difference between the brands is the label on the package, and the price. Woodland Scenics sells big shaker bottles that will last a lifetime for less than $10 US.

For basing I use a mix of Elmer's white glue, Woodland Scenics snow, and a touch of water to make a paste. I occasionally touch up the snow with a bit of white paint once dry.
   
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http://www.forgottenplanet.com/guildenstern/DeadOfWinterFinal1.jpg

just to give you a bit of an idea - the more powder stuff in a few places, or more crystalline (hard to see!) is the premade stuff; the thicker clumps of 'deeper' snow, and more compact looking stuff is the homemade stuff. Quite hard to see in the pic, sadly, bit easier to tell the difference in RL of course, but it mixes nicely, is my point. So there's quite a few different things you can do with snow!

Don't forget too you can make or get winter tufts, like dead grasses, which are a great addition to a winter style base - breaks it up a bit but adds some colour without making it look too 'green' imo.

Plus of course icicles - couple of different ways to do those, some people melt (carefully!) the clear plastic such as flight stands stuffs, and kind of stretch it out. Or you can also get some water effects stuff, kind of paint it out into the appropriate shape, and let it dry on a piece of wax paper. One I haven't tried yet but some people have used as well is the hotglue method!

Anyway, good luck and let us know how you get on =D

   
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It looks like Woodland Scenics is the way to go. Thank you guys for your advice. I hadn't thought about the dead grass, great idea by the way. Plan on me posting pictures when I'm done!
   
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Upstate, New York

Snow basing is a topic that get brought up occasionally. Here is (IIRC) the last thread on it.

My snow:

Snow bases:
Paint rim black, top white.
Glue tutfs/rocks to base.
Mix PVA and water at about a 1:1 ratio.
Add flock to form a paste, not too thin, so it can fill gaps and retain some shape.
Apply paste to base (with offset spatula/knife). Add a little dab to tops of rocks, or other places snow might collect.
While still wet, swish base though dish of loose flock to coat.
Shake excess flock off, wipe rim clear.

And some of the pages I used for research, with some nice comparison pictures.

http://fromthewarp.blogspot.com/2010/01/details-8-ways-to-base-with-snow.html
http://hakomike.blogspot.com.au/2014/08/snow-basing-materials-reference.html

I started with the GW snow kit, and switched to Woodland Scenics once that ran out.


and a recent example of my results (using the WS):
Spoiler:


   
 
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