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Hey guys, I'm starting a Grey knights army, so games Workshop's leadbelcher spray will come in very useful here. They advise though that their coloured sprays are only for basecoats, and so primer would need to be used first.

I'm concerned that spraying the models with black primer, and then basecoating with leadbelcher spray, will mean the layer of sprayed on paint will be too thick. What would happen if I sprayed the leadbelcher straight onto the plastic? Has anyone tried using any of the GW coloured sprays (macragge blue etc) without first priming?

If the only worry is that the leadbelcher base wouldn't be even then that's fine, as I'll be doing lots of washing and drybrushing over the top, but if the paint would just peel off without the primer then of course it would be an issue

Thanks

I'm in the process of building / painting a chimera and leman Russ tank. For both I sprayed the tracks separate to the main body. I did a very thin coat of chaos black then went over them with leadbelcher and the detail stayed sharp. I think as long as your base spray is very thin - just enough to get the leadbelcher something to stick to, it should be ok. Also I was impressed with the lead belcher as it gave good coverage.

Ah great, that's good

I'll just give the models a dusting of chaos black then, rather than get a complete black coverage.

Also, I've heard that leadbelcher spray is really bright (brighter than the pot version). Have you found this?

Thanks for the reply!

I've used the Incubi Darkness and Caliban Green sprays directly onto plastic without priming in black or white and never had any issues.

I've even used the Incubi Darkness directly onto resin from Forge World after the cleaning process.

Nearly all spray paints are solvent based and will aggressively stick to plastics, some are even specifically designed to stick to other plastics that don't normally like spray paints.

Leadbelcher is a fine undercoat, you don't need to prime your figures with anything prior to using it.

i haven't compared spray to pot, so don't know how if there is a difference.

i undercoated black as I would normally only paint silver over a black base when using hairy brush. In my experience this gives a better silver. Plus any recesses where spray is thinker are shaded darker with the black.

xraytango wrote:
Leadbelcher is a fine undercoat, you don't need to prime your figures with anything prior to using it.

DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS!!! ALWAYS PRIME YOUR MODELS!!!

Now that being said, like using a brush, lay down thin coats of the spray primer. This will help with the detail not getting reduced. Same goes for any sprays that you use.

I have used the spray Leadbelcher and it didn't cover up any detail. This was with a black primer first. The spray will get the job done a whole lot faster and smoother.

I hope this helps.

Lead Belcher spray is the same colour as the Iron Breaker pot. I did my steam tank with the spray and so have direct experience with it.

I think dusting is a good way to go with the black spray, what I would do is dust them upside down to catch all the recesses with black and then spray them the right way up with the Leadbelcher spray. :-)

In one of their recent live streams, GW's very own Duncan said that he uses the sprays straight onto plastic without issue.

Personally I would probably prime resin or metal models, but if Dunc says the sprays are fine straight onto plastic, I wouldn't argue with that!