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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 00:57:18
Subject: 1850 rouge trader report
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Dakka Veteran
Orlando, Florida
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Hey every one. Over the weekend I participated in a 1850 RTT using my mech tau. This is my list: HQ Shas'el-plasma,pod,multi,array-97 Shas'el-plasma,pod,multi,array-97 Elites 2 fireknives-128 1 fireknife-64 4 xv25-120 Troops 12 fcw-devil fish, multi,decoy, shas'ui-225 12 fcw-devil fish, multi, decoy, shas'ui-225 12 fcw- devil fish, multi, decoy, shas'ui-225 Fast piranha-fusion, array, decoy-75 piranha-fusion, array, decoy-75 Heavy Railhead-multi, burst, decoy, target lock-170 Railhead- multi, burst, decoy, target lock- 170 Railhead- multi, burst, decoy, target-170 The turnout was pretty good with 16 people showing up. 1 tau, 1 eldar, 1 orks, 1 guard, 1 siren bomb, 2 iron warriors, 1 shrike's wing raven guard, the rest were assorted MEQs. Win=15 draw=9 loss=5 Game 1. Crimson fists his army (roughly)- 4 rhino squads ( 2 six man with a las, 1 with 2 flamers, 1 with two meltas, 2 dreads, cheap (less then 100) commander, vindicator , destructor, anihilator, 2 speeder squadrons ( 1 tornando in each, 1 just hvy bolter in each). Mission was victory points but everything except two troops started in reserve. Deployment- he had his two las squads in 4+cover, I hid two FoF squads behind a forest turn 1- nothing happens turn 2-My whole army except my stealths came on. One squad of marines lossed 4 guys, the other 3 guys, both rhinos shaken. Half his army comes on. Destroys a devil fish (only 2 firewarriors die), shoots down a piranha, stuns a devil fish, shakes a hammerhead. Turn 3- no stealths. Return fire kills anhilator, imobilizes and stuns vindicator, kills a tactical squad, destroys speeder squadron. fire back downs a hammerhead and kills the other piranha. Melta squad disembarks and stuns a devil fish. Turn 4- yes stealths. I kill 2 rhinos, shake a speeder, double FoF melta squad and kill it. He kills another hammer head and sends a fire warrior squad running Turn 5- I finish off another tactical squad, kill another rhino, kill his commander Kills a hammerhead Time is called Minor Tau win 15 points for win 2 point modifiers 17 points for round 1 Notes: minor rule discrempentcies. He still believed in the size 3 cylinder of no LOS from vehicles. I also had to prove you could disembark while stuned
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 01:13:42
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Dakka Veteran
Orlando, Florida
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Round 2 Mechanized Eldar (the craftworld with all aspects) his army- 3 falcons, 3 vipers, 2 sperpants, 2 fire dragon squads (in falcons), holwing banshee squad( in falcon), dire avengers(in serpant), scorpions with a farseer(in serpant). Mission- victory points with possible nightfight on turn 4+ and preliminary bombardment (?). Turn 1- I kill a viper and imoblilize and weapon destroy another He kills my stealths Turn 2- I stun a falcon, shake another, kill the other viper, destroy the avengers sperpant. He stuns a piranha with a squad of firedragons Turn 3- I kill the dragons, Kill a falcon, and kill more avengers He kills a piranha Turn 4- I kill the last viper, destroy a pulselaser, remove a brightlance from a serpant. He kills the other piranha. Charges a firewarrior squad with banshees (oops). Banshees kill 6 and fire warrios kill 2. They hold. He charges a shas'el with 2 avengers. Nothing happens Turn 5- I kill the last serpant and kill a starcannon on the pulselaser-less falcon, and kill the other falcon's pulselaser. My firewarriors against banshees run and die. Nothing happens against the avengers He accomplishes nothing Turn 6- Night fight. Double FoF drops 2(!) banshees and 3 scorpions. My commander kills the avengers. He charges my two fire warrior squads. One dropped below half but bother hold. Crushing victory for the tau 15 for the win 2 battle points 17 for round 2 Notes: He's a great guy I've played many times before. Terrible rolling on his part. By turn 3 he was not playing to win, he was playing the stop a massacre.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 01:29:01
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Dakka Veteran
Orlando, Florida
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Round 3 Victory points with an objective worth 300 Siren Bomb His army- Siren prince, 72 daemonettes, terminator squad, Greater daemon Turn 1- I fly away he speeds at me Turn 2- I fly away 48 daemons in, unexpected charge drops a hammerhead. Turn 3- I kill about 32 daemons His terminators scatter and die, the rest of the daemons come in. The greater daemon had room to appear. His prince kills a crisis squad Turn 4- I kill the greater daemon, more daemons, and swarm the objective. His prince kills a shas'el Turn 5- More dead daemonettes via a lot of guns and a FoF His prince charges a fire warrior squad and kills em. Turn 6- I kill all but half a squad of daemonettes His prince kills stealth squad Crushing victory for the tau 15 for the win 2 battle 17 for round 3 Notes: Fun guy to play against and my other armies have been slaughtered by his siren bomb many times so this was revenge. I was the only undefeated player at the end and I had one of the better paint jobs present. I win: Best overall
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 02:21:49
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Congradulations! You now the only reason you got overall was because CaptKarothers and myself wasn't there to beat you. Hehe.
Game 1: That was the game you where in when I stopped by, it seemed closer than you where describing. I notice he was spouting some rather interesting rule discrepancies, but that is Florida for you. Half the players don't have people aroung that read forums like these and understand how the rules work, helll, It took me two years before I actually met oponents that understood the rules. Oh well, make sure you have your rule book handy when we go down to Tampa and crush them.
Game 2: I though he would give you a little more fight than that. I have always seen that army do well. You must have gotten the drop on him. Tau seem to work better skimmer heavy because you gots all that Firepower and he still relies on getting at least some of his army in CC, and you don't have any boots on the ground most of the time that he can sweep through.
Game 3: Deamonettes can do nothing against skimmers. Unless you are extemely lucky and with all your rolling. And the shooting you can throw out can just massacre those Deamonettes. So I am not surprised at your outcome.
Did you win best painted? The few well painted armies I saw where not complete.
Looked like a great tournament, I wish I had an army I felt was ready to play. Oh well, set your calender for a late July trip to Tampa, in which Orlando will own those fools.
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Current Armies: Blood Angels, Imperial Guard (40k), Skorne, Retribution (Warmachine), Vampire Counts (Fantasy)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 02:30:39
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Dakka Veteran
Orlando, Florida
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Game 1: It was very close. If you read the last turns it starts to become me doing little to nothing while he starts dropping hammerheads like flies. I only beat him by 209 points (185 was draw range)
Game 2: I did the math prior to the tourny and my list would beat his statistically. Plus he rolled like hell and I rolled normal, and by normal I mean how I always do (really good).
Game 3: Yea, it wasn't much of a game, especially once his termies scattered to death.
The tournament sure helped my alpha legion (1 defiler, 1 rhino, 1 chaos squad). All I need for the 1000 point list is another chaos squad, 2 oblits, and a daemon prince.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 02:33:47
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Wow, so I guess they had pretty good prize support. It is too bad that they only do one once every other month.
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Current Armies: Blood Angels, Imperial Guard (40k), Skorne, Retribution (Warmachine), Vampire Counts (Fantasy)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 02:34:32
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Dakka Veteran
Orlando, Florida
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I might have won best painted If I didn't: 1. win overall 2.Vote the crimson fist guy in the first round for best painted opponent (he won it, but I think there were complete armies better, i.e mine or Ernie's)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 02:46:50
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Dakka Veteran
Orlando, Florida
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notice he was spouting some rather interesting rule discrepancies, but that is Florida for you
yea, something along the lines of not being able to regroup if you are out of coherency. They directly mention you can AND give you a consolidation move to get back into cohernency. He also said I could not shoot his predator because there was part of a rhino in the way. Needless to say, a few minutes later his predator was a smoking ruin with a big rail hole in its front. Further, he messured range for his vindicator then placed the template at 24" even though the target was out of range. While I was standing agast, he scattered it out of range and Line of sight.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 02:50:04
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Dakka Veteran
Orlando, Florida
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Some saturday you, me, and capt k need to mark all the pages in a rule book were common rule mistakes are made and then go down to Tampa and and 'correct' the error in their ways. Of course we wouldn't actually do this, we would just go to tampa and tell them the rules, then spend 5 minutes of their time showing them were in the rule book the rules actually are.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 03:22:45
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Oh yeah, I still have scar's from that "have to set up transport with the unit" debacle. I am telling you, I am excited to go down there. Hopefully I can get all this painting done by then, selling things have gotten me the necessary revenue so far, hopefully I can keep that up.
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Current Armies: Blood Angels, Imperial Guard (40k), Skorne, Retribution (Warmachine), Vampire Counts (Fantasy)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 03:34:01
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Dakka Veteran
Orlando, Florida
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Not to mention the horrible 'can't disembark in difficult terrain' or the 'destroyed vehicles are area terrian'.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 03:59:36
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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We need to have a list or something to take down there with us, for these rule questions. Just a simple page number or something.
Anyways, I am glad you enjoyed the tournament, and like the good Hihja said "I look forward to killing you soon"
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Current Armies: Blood Angels, Imperial Guard (40k), Skorne, Retribution (Warmachine), Vampire Counts (Fantasy)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 05:36:38
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Nice report and congrats on the win. Wow, that's like 2 in a row for you or something...kinda like a dynasty in the NFL. Just wait until I make it to one of those....hehe. Dynasty over! All kidding aside, sounds like a decent turnout for a holiday weekend. Get ready for this weekends Escalation tourney! I still can't believe that he pulled the magic cylinder on you...hehe. So lame. What were the other rules disputes again? I agree that we should all get together a sheet of the basic disputes that occur and put tabs in the rule books so when these clowns get it wrong, we can set it right. Capt K
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 05:40:51
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Is the escalation Tournament this weekend? Crap, I need to ask if I can change my army...
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Current Armies: Blood Angels, Imperial Guard (40k), Skorne, Retribution (Warmachine), Vampire Counts (Fantasy)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 05:42:03
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Probably. They were going to let James play and he didn't even participate in the thing in the first place! Capt K
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 06:17:03
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Dakka Veteran
Orlando, Florida
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What were the other rules disputes again?
There wasn't really that many disputes overall. I dont think there was a single questionable dispute (something not adressed in the rules) the whole time.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 07:23:48
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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So was the guy agreeable or just a weinie? Capt K
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 07:40:45
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Dakka Veteran
Orlando, Florida
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Not much of an arguement happened. I said I was shooting the pred. He said rhino was in the way. I said blah blah blah. He said "whatever, you would have moved to the right some". he then let me do it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 08:24:54
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Meh, still sounds kind of weinie-ish. Capt K
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 08:40:55
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Dakka Veteran
Orlando, Florida
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Whats kind of funny is that the Ork player, using foot orks, came in second or thrid. He had (I think) two wins and a draw, because in round three he was on table two againts ben who had two wins, I also knew that the orks were not undefeated. A tournament with 3 or 4 highly competative MEQs and a Hard Eldar list and a siren bomb, and the Tau come out in top followed by foot orks.
Oh yea, the orks beat ben. Kind of funny when a daemon prince is killed by a S10 ZZzzap gun.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 08:42:37
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Dakka Veteran
Orlando, Florida
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Heh, dakka creates some strange adjectives. Weinie-ish, pulse laser-less.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 09:41:55
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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True dat. But funny as well. Capt K
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 10:10:14
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Weinie-ish - Abj. - the state of being, through intentional or otherwise, manipulative with wrong interpretations of the rules which usually benefits ones self. See also Hambeast
The Dakka dictionary, everybody loves it.
I love the fact that while I was walking by your game with him that I had to correct him on that lone Firewarrior that broke off your running unit because he wasn't in difficult terrain anymore. Forgot the whole "moves at the speed of the slowest model" aspect of the game.
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Current Armies: Blood Angels, Imperial Guard (40k), Skorne, Retribution (Warmachine), Vampire Counts (Fantasy)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 10:23:12
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Dakka Veteran
Orlando, Florida
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In my opinion, the guy wasn't weinie-ish. I belive he, like most non-dakkaites, was mearly unenlightened. It is our solemn duty to spread the light of the true and only interpretation of the rules to the fallen regions of this darkend world!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 10:52:30
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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If you use dark twice in a sentance, is that like a double negative thereby negating the dark? So why would I spread anything to anybody's nether region. You are just wrong Me_Person.
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Current Armies: Blood Angels, Imperial Guard (40k), Skorne, Retribution (Warmachine), Vampire Counts (Fantasy)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 11:01:07
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Dakka Veteran
Orlando, Florida
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If you cant tell why I'm posting such random nonsense, it's because I'm trying to get to a hundred posts. I'm also gonna edit that one, thus making your reply the nonsense!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 11:04:18
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Dakka Veteran
Orlando, Florida
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Not to be negative, but the escalation tournament might not happen this week. The special character tournament is this saturday.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 11:04:42
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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What is stopping me from Editing my post to make your edit pointless.
And there are pharses for those who post rediculously just for the pleasure of a high post count....
BTW, what was this thread about again?
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Current Armies: Blood Angels, Imperial Guard (40k), Skorne, Retribution (Warmachine), Vampire Counts (Fantasy)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 11:06:04
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Dakka Veteran
Orlando, Florida
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And there are pharses for those who post rediculously just for the pleasure of a high post count....
BTW, what was this thread about again?
All right, i'll stop. This was about my rrt report. SO stay on topic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2006/05/30 11:06:14
Subject: RE: 1850 rouge trader report
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Dakka Veteran
Orlando, Florida
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And there are pharses for those who post rediculously just for the pleasure of a high post count....
BTW, what was this thread about again?
All right, i'll stop. This was about my rtt report. SO stay on topic.
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