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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/09 19:40:30
Subject: [1500] - CSM - Mono Nurgle using death guard rules
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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Daemon Prince 345 points
Daemon of Nurgle wings power armour Mastery Level 3 spell familiar Plague Bringer warlord (will most likely roll on the Death Guard Table. Powers wise 1 x Nurgle 2 x Sinistorum)
Troops
10 Chaos Marines 243 points
Mark of Nurgle Votlw 9 x ccws 2 plasma guns champ with power fist
Rhino 35 points
10 chaos marines 223 points
Mark of Nurgle VoTLW 9 x additional ccws 2 plasma guns champion has melts bombs
Rhino 35 points
5 x Plague Marines 155 points
VoTLW 2 Plasma Guns plague champion with melts bombs
Rhino 35 points
Fast Attack
3 Chaos Bikers 113 points
MoN Votlw 2 flamers champion has conbi flamer melts bombs
Blight Drone 150 points
Heavy Support
Chaos Predator 140 points
Twin linked lascannon Lascannon sponsons
1476 points total
Thoughts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/10 00:39:53
Subject: [1500] - CSM - Mono Nurgle using death guard rules
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator
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I dont like seeing flamers on bikes because once you jink, they can't be used.
Flamers on Raptors. Meltas (or plasma) on bikes.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/10 05:11:59
Subject: Re:[1500] - CSM - Mono Nurgle using death guard rules
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Giggling Nurgling
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You're so close to a vectorium it seems a shame to not go that route. I understand if you're building the army to fit the models you got...but if that weren't the case I'd make a few changes.
First I'd ditch the plague marines.. normal marines with MON got everything except the poison and to me there are better ways to get it in the army. Second I'd kit out my 10 man csm squads with a melta and autocannon or plasma and autocannon. Your dudes all got relentless... might aswell use it, more dakka for less points.
As for the daemon prince I'm more of a fan of more smaller lords over one big guy with how boons work now. For the points costs of your D-prince you can bring in 1 lord on a bike with Pweapon a sorc on bike and another sorcerer to support the troops. All with double/rerolling boons... heck one of them could easily become a daemon prince. You'd probably have points left over to build up your core and buy so fun toys for your lords.
Anyways, just some thoughts. Any who look at the Vectorium detachment again, you're so close and really rerolling 1s for feel no pain and cloud of flies is pretty sweet.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/10 07:39:16
Subject: [1500] - CSM - Mono Nurgle using death guard rules
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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I do have the models to go vectorium but I fond it wayyy too restrictive and I don't like how most of the formations require a HQ choice.
On the daemon prince while I can get a lord and sorcerors or 2 for the same price the prince with his daemon weapon can do far more damage.
The Plague marines I am considering swapping out for a chosen squad with 4 plasma guns.
The bikes have flamers due to the fact I face daemons quite a bit and they end up getting charged by daemonettes a lot. I normally hide them in a ruin so I don't need to jink.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/10 22:54:14
Subject: [1500] - CSM - Mono Nurgle using death guard rules
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
New England
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I play Death Guard and their strength is that everything has relentless... I pack as many autocannons as possible into my lists- easy to outrange your opponent with good S shooting and still move them around..
Not even a single squad of Havocs or heavy weapon in the list- seems like a real shame and you're not playing to one of the major strengths of Death Guard.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/11 01:39:45
Subject: [1500] - CSM - Mono Nurgle using death guard rules
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Despised Traitorous Cultist
Brisbane, Australia
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At 345 pts the Daemon Prince is a massive chunk out of your 1500 point total for the army. A lord/ Sorc on a bike to go with your bike squad would be half of that with a ton of upgrades!
you could maybe fit in an auto cannon Havoc squad with the points saved. (not sure on costs don't have book on me)
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2017/01/11 03:27:01
- 2000 pts < mostly |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/11 04:01:56
Subject: Re:[1500] - CSM - Mono Nurgle using death guard rules
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Giggling Nurgling
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I totally feel ya with the restrictiveness of basically all the "Decurion" detachments... we've become slave to the GW buying schemes.... haha
a unit of Chosen MON 4 x plasma is 165. A unit of havocs MON with 4 x plasma is 150. A unit of havocs with 4 autocannon is 130 and argueable better when you weigh being ap4, not having gets hot and the range. At the very least I'd take the havocs over the chosen unless you intend to send the plasma chosen into situations where they'll end up assaulting... which could be I suppose.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/11 20:53:01
Subject: [1500] - CSM - Mono Nurgle using death guard rules
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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Thanks so I played a game today I ran
Lord in terminator armour Mon claw chain fist votlw
10 csm 2 plasma mom votlw 9 x additional ccws power fist rhino with havoc launcher
10 csm 2 plasma Mon votlw rhino
3 bikes 2 flamers combi flamer Mon votlw
3 terminators 3 combi plasmas chain fist power fist Mon votlw
Hellbrute
Then a squad of plague marines in a rhino (so a warband + plague marines)
Faced a strange nid/ genestealer cult list
Game went to turn 7 mission was the relic
He had first blood line breaker I had the relic (sat with the 5 plague marines in the land raider).
My list was unbound due to me forgetting to take my copy of traitors hate however thank fully the chaos warband was in traitor legions so I could at least make it a death guard formation.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/15 21:18:14
Subject: [1500] - CSM - Mono Nurgle using death guard rules
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Lesser Daemon of Chaos
New England
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Yeah, that could be a Black Crusade detachment from Traitors Hate... But I honestly think the bonuses from a Vectorium out of Traitors Legion is far superior.... Have to call the plague marines either CSM, Chosen, or Havocs w/ MoN.... But you make them CSM instead of Plague Marines and you'll have the points for a single MoN spawn to be a legal Vectorium.
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