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There's a new relic in Cadia that states: " Enemy units cannot Deep-Strike within 12" of the bearer. If they scatter within 12" of the Bearer, they suffer an automatic Deep Strike Mishap."

Does this mean that models disembarking from a transport that has arrived via deep strike cannot end their move within 12" of the bearer? Or is this only referring to the initial placement of the first model in the unit?

 Elric Greywolf wrote:
There's a new relic in Cadia that states: " Enemy units cannot Deep-Strike within 12" of the bearer. If they scatter within 12" of the Bearer, they suffer an automatic Deep Strike Mishap."

Does this mean that models disembarking from a transport that has arrived via deep strike cannot end their move within 12" of the bearer? Or is this only referring to the initial placement of the first model in the unit?

Neither. It's referring to the whole unit that deep struck, but it doesn't prevent other kinds of movement from bringing the unit within 12".

If they are disembarking, then they're not Deep Striking. If a unit has lots of models, and those models can't be placed without part of the unit being within 12", then that unit mishaps, but if something like a Drop Pod lands more than 12" away and the units inside get out and walk within 12", then they're legal.

There's precedent to suggest a unit disembarking from a Transport vehicle that arrived by Deep Strike also counts as arriving from Deep Strike; Coteaz can make his 'I've Been Expecting You' special rule shooting attack at such units immediately after they have disembarked.

 Mr. Shine wrote:
There's precedent to suggest a unit disembarking from a Transport vehicle that arrived by Deep Strike also counts as arriving from Deep Strike; Coteaz can make his 'I've Been Expecting You' special rule shooting attack at such units immediately after they have disembarked.

They count as having arrived from deep strike, but the movement after disembarking would not itself be the deep strike, so disembarking from deep strike and then moving within 12" of the bearer should be fine.

Jacksmiles wrote:
They count as having arrived from deep strike, but the movement after disembarking would not itself be the deep strike, so disembarking from deep strike and then moving within 12" of the bearer should be fine.

I agree that's clearly how it should be played, but the Inquisition FAQ has it that disembarking from a Deep Striking Transport vehicle to within a given range also counts as arriving from Deep Strike within that range.

 Mr. Shine wrote:

Jacksmiles wrote:
They count as having arrived from deep strike, but the movement after disembarking would not itself be the deep strike, so disembarking from deep strike and then moving within 12" of the bearer should be fine.

I agree that's clearly how it should be played, but the Inquisition FAQ has it that disembarking from a Deep Striking Transport vehicle to within a given range also counts as arriving from Deep Strike within that range.

Coteaz' ability triggers when a unit arrives from Reserves. Not just from Deep Strike.
Also, no official FAQ (or even the draft FAQ) talks about what counts as being within range of the power. It's all about 'Can I shoot at both targets if they're both within range'.

 Mr. Shine wrote:

Jacksmiles wrote:
They count as having arrived from deep strike, but the movement after disembarking would not itself be the deep strike, so disembarking from deep strike and then moving within 12" of the bearer should be fine.

I agree that's clearly how it should be played, but the Inquisition FAQ has it that disembarking from a Deep Striking Transport vehicle to within a given range also counts as arriving from Deep Strike within that range.

Whoops, missed that one. Still, even RAW that would make it crazy wonky. If they automatically mishap AFTER disembarking due to the relic, what mishaps? Just the unit, or the unit and the transport, and why? I'm envisioning a "rewind" scene lol.

Jacksmiles wrote:

 Mr. Shine wrote:

Jacksmiles wrote:
They count as having arrived from deep strike, but the movement after disembarking would not itself be the deep strike, so disembarking from deep strike and then moving within 12" of the bearer should be fine.

I agree that's clearly how it should be played, but the Inquisition FAQ has it that disembarking from a Deep Striking Transport vehicle to within a given range also counts as arriving from Deep Strike within that range.

Whoops, missed that one. Still, even RAW that would make it crazy wonky. If they automatically mishap AFTER disembarking due to the relic, what mishaps? Just the unit, or the unit and the transport, and why? I'm envisioning a "rewind" scene lol.

Read my post above. They do not mishap after disembarking.

Waaaghpower wrote:

Jacksmiles wrote:

 Mr. Shine wrote:

Jacksmiles wrote:
They count as having arrived from deep strike, but the movement after disembarking would not itself be the deep strike, so disembarking from deep strike and then moving within 12" of the bearer should be fine.

I agree that's clearly how it should be played, but the Inquisition FAQ has it that disembarking from a Deep Striking Transport vehicle to within a given range also counts as arriving from Deep Strike within that range.

Whoops, missed that one. Still, even RAW that would make it crazy wonky. If they automatically mishap AFTER disembarking due to the relic, what mishaps? Just the unit, or the unit and the transport, and why? I'm envisioning a "rewind" scene lol.

Read my post above. They do not mishap after disembarking.

Yep, you're right, so I was right initially. Took the post I quoted at its word, but that's not what the FAQ actually says.