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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2019/09/01 15:20:09
Subject: Swapping Curse Earth & Summoning
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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I am just brainstorming an idea here, but what if Curse Earth was the primaris for Malefic, instead of Summoning? It has always bothered my that the Malefic primaris was 3 WC, even if it does give you a free unit. So what if we make CE the primaris at 2 WC? I increased the WC since making it the primaris guarantees access to it, therefore it needs a bit to balance it. But since Banishment is the primaris for Sanctic, this would better mirror how opposite the 2 Disciplines are. As a side change, we could make Summoning a 2 WC conjuration that only summons Troop Daemons (so just 'Letters, 'Nettes, PBs, Nurglings or Horrors of any color) This would mean the following is possible: CE can be taken automatically, but is WC 2 Summoning is also WC 2, but is not automatic and only summons Troops Sacrifice, Incursion & Possession stay the same Maybe add Seekers, Flamers & Hounds to Incursion since we dropped them from Summoning Thoughts? -
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/12 16:31:45
Subject: Swapping Curse Earth & Summoning
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Cackling Chaos Conscript
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Then Tzeentch daemons will always have access to that invul boost for 2++ re-rollable shenanigans, but the Word Bearers sometimes won't even have any conjuration powers, which their only meaningful special rule boosts?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/12 16:33:39
Subject: Swapping Curse Earth & Summoning
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Lady of the Lake
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Add a little line that says that the result of a save improved by this power can't be rerolled?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/12 17:05:33
Subject: Re:Swapping Curse Earth & Summoning
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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I'd just max it at a 3++ save. No 2++s.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/12 17:12:56
Subject: Swapping Curse Earth & Summoning
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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I like that limit idea, but that needs to be a straight up rule in the BRB that caps invuls at 3++ unless otherwise stated (like if a character specifically has a 2++) As for Tz Daemon lists, they already get cursed earth in like every game already, or use Grimiore, or Robes + the Tz WL trait. Having automatic access to CE is not going to stop Daemon lists from getting 2++, but it will help non-cheese list get just a bit of a boost. And more importantly, it would better mirror Sanctic Good point on the Word Bearer thing. But that is an easy fix by allowing then to still use Summoning as a primaris instead of CE. -
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/12 19:24:56
Subject: Swapping Curse Earth & Summoning
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Regular Dakkanaut
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It's an interesting idea.
I have Slaanesh Daemons and that power is invaluable to keep more of my (very flimsy) units alive.
Maybe instead of making it simply warp charge 2 it gets made into a focused power (affecting one unit rather than an area) for warp charge 1 and being able to up the warp charge to 2 to grant it the area effect.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2017/01/12 19:39:02
Subject: Swapping Curse Earth & Summoning
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Hmm. Not bad, but at that point, you'd need to change the name. The power is literally cursing a spot on the battlefield that gives Daemons strength.
Maybe we just lower the range to 6" instead of 12'. So overall you are paying twice the WC as now for half the range. That should more than balance being able to get it as a primaris
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